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Subject: Re: Questions about Parley and KWordQuiz
From: Aleix Pol <aleixpol () kde ! org>
Date: 2013-10-28 17:12:18
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On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Peter Hedlund <peter@peterandlinda.com>wro=
te:
> Hello,
>
> I completely agree with what has been said here.
>
> There has not been much work on KWQ recently for two reasons; it is in my
> opinion more or less feature complete and stable, and due to other
> interests and obligations I have had very little time to devote to it.
>
> I am open to any suggestions or decisions regarding the future of these
> programs the larger edu team find appropriate.
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
>
> On Oct 27, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Frederik Gladhorn <frederik@gladhorn.de>
> wrote:
>
> > On Saturday 26. October 2013 18.15.53 Andreas Cord-Landwehr wrote:
> > > Hi, today at the Edu sprint we came up with the question about
> > > what the long-term plan for vocabulary training applications in KDE
> > > Edu should be. As far as we know, currently we have KWordQuiz
> > > and Parley, which solve very similar needs (at least from our high
> > > level view). So it would be great, if you could help us understand
> > > better why we have two different applications (which allows better
> > > advertisement of their specific qualities) or whether it could be a
> > > goal to switch to only one application in the future...
> > >
> > > From the people currently here in La Coru=C3=B1a, unfortunatley
> > > nobody can remember the specific arguments what lead to having
> > > two applications. So it would be great if you could help us
> > > remember :)
> >
> > Hi, I hope you're having a great sprint!
> >
> > From my point of view there was simply the argument that Parley's UI is
> targeted at more advanced self learners and KWQ aims to be nice and simpl=
e.
> >
> > I agree that the question is valid and that it is not very sensible
> resource wise, as I consider at least Parley unmaintained and I guess KWQ
> is not faring much better. For Parley the aim was to get a nice welcome
> screen (it's partially there) so that you don't see the editor first but
> can start practicing right away. But there are still many low hanging
> fruits (polish the UI, conjugations, ...).
> >
> > (I will not manage to spend time on Parley any time soon because I have
> too many other things going on, when I have time left over I try to work =
on
> making accessibility in KDE work sensibly, so I'll not get active with
> Parley again)
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Frederik
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Andreas
> >
>
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Hi guys,
We've been working this morning trying to apply the Language Applications
personas to our language applications, you can see our conclusions here:
https://notes.kde.org/p/kde-edu-sprint
Some of these should probably become bugs reports and some should drive us
to bigger changes. Please take a look at these and tell us what you think!
Cheers!
Aleix
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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Peter Hedlund <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:peter@peterandlinda.com" target="_blank">peter@peterandlinda.com</a>></span> \
wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello,<br>
<br>
I completely agree with what has been said here.<br>
<br>
There has not been much work on KWQ recently for two reasons; it is in my opinion more or less \
feature complete and stable, and due to other interests and obligations I have had very little \
time to devote to it.<br> <br>
I am open to any suggestions or decisions regarding the future of these programs the larger edu \
team find appropriate.<br> <br>
Thanks,<br>
Peter<br>
<div class=""><div class="h5"><br>
On Oct 27, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Frederik Gladhorn <<a \
href="mailto:frederik@gladhorn.de">frederik@gladhorn.de</a>> wrote:<br> <br>
> On Saturday 26. October <a href="tel:2013%2018.15.53" value="+12013181553">2013 \
18.15.53</a> Andreas Cord-Landwehr wrote:<br> > > Hi, today at the Edu sprint we came up \
with the question about<br> > > what the long-term plan for vocabulary training \
applications in KDE<br> > > Edu should be. As far as we know, currently we have \
KWordQuiz<br> > > and Parley, which solve very similar needs (at least from our high<br>
> > level view). So it would be great, if you could help us understand<br>
> > better why we have two different applications (which allows better<br>
> > advertisement of their specific qualities) or whether it could be a<br>
> > goal to switch to only one application in the future...<br>
> ><br>
> > From the people currently here in La Coruña, unfortunatley<br>
> > nobody can remember the specific arguments what lead to having<br>
> > two applications. So it would be great if you could help us<br>
> > remember :)<br>
><br>
> Hi, I hope you're having a great sprint!<br>
><br>
> From my point of view there was simply the argument that Parley's UI is targeted at \
more advanced self learners and KWQ aims to be nice and simple.<br> ><br>
> I agree that the question is valid and that it is not very sensible resource wise, as I \
consider at least Parley unmaintained and I guess KWQ is not faring much better. For Parley the \
aim was to get a nice welcome screen (it's partially there) so that you don't see the \
editor first but can start practicing right away. But there are still many low hanging fruits \
(polish the UI, conjugations, ...).<br>
><br>
> (I will not manage to spend time on Parley any time soon because I have too many other \
things going on, when I have time left over I try to work on making accessibility in KDE work \
sensibly, so I'll not get active with Parley again)<br>
><br>
> Greetings,<br>
> Frederik<br>
><br>
><br>
> ><br>
> > Greetings,<br>
> > Andreas<br>
><br>
<br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Hi guys,</div><div \
class="gmail_extra">We've been working this morning trying to apply the Language \
Applications personas to our language applications, you can see our conclusions here:</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><a \
href="https://notes.kde.org/p/kde-edu-sprint">https://notes.kde.org/p/kde-edu-sprint</a></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Some of these should probably become \
bugs reports and some should drive us to bigger changes. Please take a look at these and tell \
us what you think!</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Cheers!</div><div \
class="gmail_extra">Aleix</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br></div></div>
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