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Subject: Re: Add Cooperative Learning to Pairs
From: Aleix Pol <aleixpol () kde ! org>
Date: 2013-09-02 0:13:03
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Wouldn't it be better to add a difficulty attribute in the <element>?
This way we'd get to re-use more parts of the themes.
Also XML doesn't love multiple toplevels, you'd want to have something like:
<theme>
<game level="...">...</game>
<game level="...">...</game>
<game level="...">...</game>
</theme>
Hope this helps!
Aleix
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Marco Calignano <marco.calignano@gmail.com
> wrote:
> HI Aleix,
>
> I prepared a new branch called 'cooperative' to work on Pairs with the
> students without disturbing the master. In there under the directory Themes
> I committed a proposal for the Coopeartive Theme.
> Is just a list of themes with an attribute that gives the difficulty (very
> easy, easy, medium, hard, very hard) and I also add a field 'maxmoves'
> where you can set the maximum number of moves allowed to complete the game.
> (if 0 there is no limit).
>
> I wait for feed back. If everything is fine I can go on and give it to the
> students.
>
> Bye
> Marco
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol@kde.org> wrote:
>
>> :) alright! Let's do this!
>>
>> Yes, definitely, let's discuss over the format. It will be interesting to
>> also discuss how we have to change current Pairs.
>>
>> Aleix
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Marco Calignano <
>> marco.calignano@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have looked at this discussion again and I am still positive we can
>>> Integrate Cooperative Learning in the Pairs game. I also (probably you have
>>> seen already) put two SoK task for student to help me do it. And it seems I
>>> have two candidates. In any case I will work in a branch and then we can
>>> still decide at the end if what we do is good or not.
>>> Many details of the GUI we can implement in a later time what I need
>>> first is the Themes management routines and the games flow.
>>> So in the next day I will go ahead and propose an XML format for a
>>> "collaborative Pairs Theme".
>>> I would like you to check on me if I might forget or oversee something.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Marco
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol@kde.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Marco Calignano <
>>>> marco.calignano@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol@kde.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Marco Calignano <
>>>>>> marco.calignano@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid@kde.org>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> El Dimarts, 7 de maig de 2013, a les 09:22:38, Marco Calignano va
>>>>>>>> escriure:
>>>>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > to answer to Albert:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I plan to add an option (an Icon on the games bar) so the player
>>>>>>>> can choose
>>>>>>>> > the collaborative mode like was another kind of game.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Makes sense :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I can also give an example to how I imagine the third point:
>>>>>>>> > There are three kids around the computer only one can play. When
>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>> > finishes his game we need to automatically load a new game
>>>>>>>> (similar to the
>>>>>>>> > first) for the next kid. Now after everyone played once we load a
>>>>>>>> new game
>>>>>>>> > (a bit more difficult) that the first kid can play again and so.
>>>>>>>> All this
>>>>>>>> > list of game and difficulties could be store in a xml file
>>>>>>>> similar to the
>>>>>>>> > current theme file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Makes sense now :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > to answer Aleix:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > The aim of collaborative learning is to have children work
>>>>>>>> together. A
>>>>>>>> > player for himself is not Collaborative learning. (Of course we
>>>>>>>> can think
>>>>>>>> > of another option for increasing difficulties even in single
>>>>>>>> player mode)
>>>>>>>> > The number three came out in a discussion with the educator of
>>>>>>>> pre-school
>>>>>>>> > teacher: the said the best number is three one at computer and
>>>>>>>> one per
>>>>>>>> > side, the forth would be behind and sometime because of physical
>>>>>>>> > characteristics could be cut off of the game (too short to see
>>>>>>>> the monitor)
>>>>>>>> > but also psychological he fells less important because he is
>>>>>>>> behind
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I would like to discuss the UI further as well (that's why this
>>>>>>>> email)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you need for the UI, some kind of scoreboard so that each
>>>>>>>> children has
>>>>>>>> a different score?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) The score is not for each player but only for the group so we
>>>>>>> need to change the left tab where the players are.
>>>>>>> 2) We need also a way to tell the kids that they need to switch
>>>>>>> places. I thought like a popup windows where the avatar and the name
>>>>>>> appears.
>>>>>>> 3) Therefore the kids have to have different avatar.
>>>>>>> 4) I think also we need some kind of confirmation mechanism to
>>>>>>> select collaborative games. Like a double click or code typing of some
>>>>>>> kind: this would avoid kids playing at home switching into collaborative
>>>>>>> mode and have any kind of "problems"
>>>>>>> 5) we should also give the possibility to same the session game with
>>>>>>> players scores etc. This make sense since in this kind of mode there will
>>>>>>> be more than one game.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Albert
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > For the difficulty we could implement it both way: Increase the
>>>>>>>> number of
>>>>>>>> > cards, and/or decrease the number of step needed to solve the game
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I hope I was clearer this time if not just tell me
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Cheers
>>>>>>>> > Marco
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol@kde.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > > Hi Marco! :)
>>>>>>>> > > It's good to see you back!
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > First of all, I think it's a great iniciative, I'd like to see
>>>>>>>> more of
>>>>>>>> > > that in the future.
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > Point by point:
>>>>>>>> > > 1. Why do we limit the number of players? how do you mean to do
>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>> > > Won't a kid be able to play by himself while bored at home?
>>>>>>>> > > 2. It's a matter about UI, it won't hurt to think it through a
>>>>>>>> bit further
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > :).
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > 3. Shouldn't the difficulty be the number of "pairs" we are
>>>>>>>> displaying?
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > Aleix
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Marco Calignano <
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > marco.calignano@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >> Hello,
>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>> > >> I would like to start adding Cooperative Learning features to
>>>>>>>> Pairs, and
>>>>>>>> > >> would like to throw the discussion in the mailing list.
>>>>>>>> > >> For Cooperative Learning we need three main changes in Pairs,
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> > >> discussed in Randa last year (
>>>>>>>> > >> http://community.kde.org/KDEEdu/Sprint2012/TeachersNotes).
>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>> > >> 1. Limit the number of player to three, no more, no less.
>>>>>>>> > >> 2. Only one player can access the computer so we need a way to
>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>> > >> players when they can do that
>>>>>>>> > >> 3. Link together different games so that the players have an
>>>>>>>> increase in
>>>>>>>> > >> tasks difficulty
>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>> > >> To specify the difficulty of a game we can give a maximum
>>>>>>>> number of move
>>>>>>>> > >> to solve the game.
>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>> > >> The first two points can be build in the game code, but the
>>>>>>>> last point, I
>>>>>>>> > >> believe, belongs to the theme description because it has to be
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>> > >> flexible.
>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>> > >> What do you think?
>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>> > >> --
>>>>>>>> > >> Life is short, so learn from your mistakes
>>>>>>>> > >> And stand behind, the choices that you make
>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>> > >> Face each day with both eyes open wide
>>>>>>>> > >> And try to give don't keep it all inside
>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>> > >> Dream Theater
>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>> > >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> > >> kde-edu mailing list
>>>>>>>> > >> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
>>>>>>>> > >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> > > kde-edu mailing list
>>>>>>>> > > kde-edu@mail.kde.org
>>>>>>>> > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> kde-edu mailing list
>>>>>>>> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
>>>>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Life is short, so learn from your mistakes
>>>>>>> And stand behind, the choices that you make
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Face each day with both eyes open wide
>>>>>>> And try to give don't keep it all inside
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dream Theater
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> kde-edu mailing list
>>>>>>> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
>>>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Marco!
>>>>>> Maybe you can provide some mockups to get it discussed?
>>>>>>
>>>>> what do you mean mockups of the cooperative game or of the switching
>>>>> part?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Technically, I think that the best for this would be to have a
>>>>>> different binary called pairs-collaborative that the teachers can call and
>>>>>> know what the kids will be playing beforehand.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Personally I do not like the Idea of two different application. The
>>>>> teacher won't use it at the end
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About the switch, I think that we can just add a QML overlay with the
>>>>>> name/picture that the kind can click/press and disappears.
>>>>>>
>>>>> That pretty much what I had in mind
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aleix
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> kde-edu mailing list
>>>>>> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
>>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Life is short, so learn from your mistakes
>>>>> And stand behind, the choices that you make
>>>>>
>>>>> Face each day with both eyes open wide
>>>>> And try to give don't keep it all inside
>>>>>
>>>>> Dream Theater
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> kde-edu mailing list
>>>>> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Hi Marco,
>>>> I also don't like having 2 entry ways, but I also think it can be
>>>> problematic to narrow down the Pairs usage to class-only. Also I guess that
>>>> the teacher will have to set up different systems at the same time, so it
>>>> probably makes sense to find out a way to run a prepared session by the
>>>> teacher.
>>>>
>>>> What you are proposing, is to have different games and after 1 level is
>>>> done, the kid jumps to the next. To do this the teacher can run it with
>>>> pairs and the game shouldn't have space for much further configuration.
>>>> Also this could make it possible to specify the number of kids to use the
>>>> game or other parameters, additionally to the levels list.
>>>>
>>>> Do you think this makes sense?
>>>> Aleix
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> kde-edu mailing list
>>>> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Life is short, so learn from your mistakes
>>> And stand behind, the choices that you make
>>>
>>> Face each day with both eyes open wide
>>> And try to give don't keep it all inside
>>>
>>> Dream Theater
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> kde-edu mailing list
>>> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> kde-edu mailing list
>> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Life is short, so learn from your mistakes
> And stand behind, the choices that you make
>
> Face each day with both eyes open wide
> And try to give don't keep it all inside
>
> Dream Theater
>
>
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<div dir="ltr">Wouldn't it be better to add a difficulty attribute in the \
<element>?<div>This way we'd get to re-use more parts of the \
themes.</div><div><br></div><div>Also XML doesn't love multiple toplevels, \
you'd want to have something like:</div>
<div><theme></div><game level="...">...</game><br \
class=""><game level="...">...</game><br class=""><game \
level="...">...</game><div></theme></div>
<div><br></div><div>Hope this helps!</div><div>Aleix</div></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 11:15 \
PM, Marco Calignano <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marco.calignano@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">marco.calignano@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">HI Aleix,<div><br></div><div>I prepared a new \
branch called 'cooperative' to work on Pairs with the students without \
disturbing the master. In there under the directory Themes I committed a proposal for \
the Coopeartive Theme. </div>
<div>Is just a list of themes with an attribute that gives the difficulty (very easy, \
easy, medium, hard, very hard) and I also add a field 'maxmoves' where you \
can set the maximum number of moves allowed to complete the game. (if 0 there is no \
limit).</div>
<div><br></div><div>I wait for feed back. If everything is fine I can go on and give \
it to the students.</div><div><br></div><div>Bye</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font \
color="#888888"><div>Marco</div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb">
<div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug \
23, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Aleix Pol <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aleixpol@kde.org" \
target="_blank">aleixpol@kde.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">:) alright! Let's do \
this!<div><br></div><div>Yes, definitely, let's discuss over the format. It will \
be interesting to also discuss how we have to change current Pairs.</div>
<span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Aleix</div>
</font></span></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div \
class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Marco Calignano <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marco.calignano@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">marco.calignano@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I have looked at this \
discussion again and I am still positive we can Integrate Cooperative Learning in the \
Pairs game. I also (probably you have seen already) put two SoK task for student to \
help me do it. And it seems I have two candidates. In any case I will work in a \
branch and then we can still decide at the end if what we do is good or not. </div>
<div>Many details of the GUI we can implement in a later time what I need first is \
the Themes management routines and the games flow.</div><div>So in the next day I \
will go ahead and propose an XML format for a "collaborative Pairs Theme". \
</div>
<div>I would like you to check on me if I might forget or oversee \
something.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><span><font \
color="#888888"><div>Marco</div></font></span></div><div><div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 14, 2013 at \
12:40 AM, Aleix Pol <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aleixpol@kde.org" \
target="_blank">aleixpol@kde.org</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:23 PM, \
Marco Calignano <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marco.calignano@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">marco.calignano@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<div \
class="gmail_extra">
<div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Aleix Pol <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aleixpol@kde.org" \
target="_blank">aleixpol@kde.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM, \
Marco Calignano <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marco.calignano@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">marco.calignano@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Albert Astals Cid <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aacid@kde.org" \
target="_blank">aacid@kde.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">El Dimarts, 7 de maig de 2013, a les 09:22:38, Marco \
Calignano va escriure:<br> <div>> Hi,<br>
><br>
> to answer to Albert:<br>
><br>
> I plan to add an option (an Icon on the games bar) so the player can choose<br>
> the collaborative mode like was another kind of game.<br>
<br>
</div>Makes sense :-)<br>
<div><br>
><br>
> I can also give an example to how I imagine the third point:<br>
> There are three kids around the computer only one can play. When he<br>
> finishes his game we need to automatically load a new game (similar to the<br>
> first) for the next kid. Now after everyone played once we load a new game<br>
> (a bit more difficult) that the first kid can play again and so. All this<br>
> list of game and difficulties could be store in a xml file similar to the<br>
> current theme file.<br>
<br>
</div>Makes sense now :-)<br>
<div><br>
><br>
> to answer Aleix:<br>
><br>
> The aim of collaborative learning is to have children work together. A<br>
> player for himself is not Collaborative learning. (Of course we can think<br>
> of another option for increasing difficulties even in single player mode)<br>
> The number three came out in a discussion with the educator of pre-school<br>
> teacher: the said the best number is three one at computer and one per<br>
> side, the forth would be behind and sometime because of physical<br>
> characteristics could be cut off of the game (too short to see the monitor)<br>
> but also psychological he fells less important because he is behind<br>
><br>
> I would like to discuss the UI further as well (that's why this email)<br>
<br>
</div>What do you need for the UI, some kind of scoreboard so that each children \
has<br> a different score?<br></blockquote></div></div><div>1) The score is not for \
each player but only for the group so we need to change the left tab where the \
players are.</div><div>2) We need also a way to tell the kids that they need to \
switch places. I thought like a popup windows where the avatar and the name \
appears.</div>
<div>3) Therefore the kids have to have different avatar.</div><div>4) I think also \
we need some kind of confirmation mechanism to select collaborative games. Like a \
double click or code typing of some kind: this would avoid kids playing at home \
switching into collaborative mode and have any kind of "problems"</div>
<div>5) we should also give the possibility to same the session game with players \
scores etc. This make sense since in this kind of mode there will be more than one \
game.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><span><font color="#888888"> \
<div>Marco</div></font></span><div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
Cheers,<br>
Albert<br>
<div><div><br>
><br>
> For the difficulty we could implement it both way: Increase the number of<br>
> cards, and/or decrease the number of step needed to solve the game<br>
><br>
><br>
> I hope I was clearer this time if not just tell me<br>
><br>
> Cheers<br>
> Marco<br>
><br>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Aleix Pol <<a href="mailto:aleixpol@kde.org" \
target="_blank">aleixpol@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br> > > Hi Marco! :)<br>
> > It's good to see you back!<br>
> ><br>
> > First of all, I think it's a great iniciative, I'd like to see more \
of<br> > > that in the future.<br>
> ><br>
> > Point by point:<br>
> > 1. Why do we limit the number of players? how do you mean to do that?<br>
> > Won't a kid be able to play by himself while bored at home?<br>
> > 2. It's a matter about UI, it won't hurt to think it through a bit \
further<br> > ><br>
> > :).<br>
> ><br>
> > 3. Shouldn't the difficulty be the number of "pairs" we are \
displaying?<br> > ><br>
> > Aleix<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Marco Calignano <<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="mailto:marco.calignano@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">marco.calignano@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> > >> Hello,<br>
> >><br>
> >> I would like to start adding Cooperative Learning features to Pairs, \
and<br> > >> would like to throw the discussion in the mailing list.<br>
> >> For Cooperative Learning we need three main changes in Pairs, like<br>
> >> discussed in Randa last year (<br>
> >> <a href="http://community.kde.org/KDEEdu/Sprint2012/TeachersNotes" \
target="_blank">http://community.kde.org/KDEEdu/Sprint2012/TeachersNotes</a>).<br> \
> >><br> > >> 1. Limit the number of player to three, no more, no \
less.<br> > >> 2. Only one player can access the computer so we need a way \
to tell<br> > >> players when they can do that<br>
> >> 3. Link together different games so that the players have an increase \
in<br> > >> tasks difficulty<br>
> >><br>
> >> To specify the difficulty of a game we can give a maximum number of \
move<br> > >> to solve the game.<br>
> >><br>
> >> The first two points can be build in the game code, but the last point, \
I<br> > >> believe, belongs to the theme description because it has to be \
more<br> > >> flexible.<br>
> >><br>
> >> What do you think?<br>
> >><br>
> >> --<br>
> >> Life is short, so learn from your mistakes<br>
> >> And stand behind, the choices that you make<br>
> >><br>
> >> Face each day with both eyes open wide<br>
> >> And try to give don't keep it all inside<br>
> >><br>
> >> \
Dream Theater<br> > >><br>
> >> _______________________________________________<br>
> >> kde-edu mailing list<br>
> >> <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org" \
target="_blank">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br> > >> <a \
href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> > ><br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > kde-edu mailing list<br>
> > <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org" \
target="_blank">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br> > > <a \
href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> \
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clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div>Life is short, so learn from your mistakes \
</div><div>And stand behind, the choices that you make </div><div>
<br></div><div>Face each day with both eyes open wide <br>
</div><div>And try to give don't keep it all inside </div><div><br></div><div> \
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<br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra">Hi \
Marco!</div><div class="gmail_extra">Maybe you can provide some mockups to get it \
discussed?</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div>what do you mean mockups of the \
cooperative game or of the switching part? </div>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div \
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Technically, I think that the best for this would be to have a different binary \
called pairs-collaborative that the teachers can call and know what the kids will be \
playing beforehand.</div></div></blockquote></div><div>
Personally I do not like the Idea of two different application. The teacher won't \
use it at the end</div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">About the switch, I think that we can just add a \
QML overlay with the name/picture that the kind can click/press and \
disappears.</div></div></blockquote></div><div>That pretty much what I had in mind \
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solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span><font color="#888888"><div \
class="gmail_extra"> <br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
Aleix</div></font></span></div><div>
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<br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra">Hi \
Marco,</div><div class="gmail_extra">I also don't like having 2 entry ways, but I \
also think it can be problematic to narrow down the Pairs usage to class-only. Also I \
guess that the teacher will have to set up different systems at the same time, so it \
probably makes sense to find out a way to run a prepared session by the \
teacher.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">What you are proposing, \
is to have different games and after 1 level is done, the kid jumps to the next. To \
do this the teacher can run it with pairs and the game shouldn't have space for \
much further configuration. Also this could make it possible to specify the number of \
kids to use the game or other parameters, additionally to the levels list.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Do you think this makes \
sense?</div><span><font color="#888888"><div \
class="gmail_extra">Aleix</div></font></span></div> \
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