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Subject: Re: kalzium strings issue
From: Etienne Rebetez <etienne.rebetez () gmail ! com>
Date: 2013-01-06 11:34:25
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Hi,
Thanks Dimitis. Thats quite a review.
Most of the strings mentioned come from the elements.xml file
(libsience/data/elements.xml). If possible the patch should also be applied
upstream to the blue obelisk project. Thats where the informations about
elements comes from.
Etienne
2013/1/4 Anne-Marie Mahfouf <annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr>
> Hi Dimitris,
>
> Can you note down the incorrect strings and their exact replacement pleas=
e
> so I can commit to Kalzium source?
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Anne-Marie
>
> ----- Mail original -----
> > De: "Dimitris Kardarakos" <dimkard@gmail.com>
> > =C3=80: kde-edu@kde.org
> > Envoy=C3=A9: Jeudi 3 Janvier 2013 14:17:03
> > Objet: kalzium strings issue
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > Translating kalzium.po I stumbled upon some strings that seem
> > invalid.
> >
> > 1. msgid "It was discovered near a town named Magnesia in black
> > earth. Thus, it was "
> > "named 'magnesia nigra', or for short, Manganese."
> >
> > The aforementioned string describes the origin of the name
> > "Manganese". Nevertheless, there is no place like "black earth" in
> > Greece. You can see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese where
> > the origin of the name is described.
> >
> >
> > 2. msgid "Greek 'cuprum' for Cypres"
> >
> > The aforementioned string describes the origin of the name "Copper".
> > Cuprum is a latin word, not Greek, and according to Wikipedia "In
> > the Roman era, copper was principally mined on Cyprus, hence the
> > origin of the name of the metal as =D1=81yprium (metal of Cyprus), late=
r
> > shortened to =D1=81uprum"
> >
> >
> > 3. msgid "'Gallia' is an old name for France"
> >
> > The aforementioned string describes the origin of the name "Gallium".
> > I think that saying that Gallia is the old name of France is
> > misleading. Again, according to Wikipedia "Gaul (Latin: Gallia,
> > French: Gaule, Dutch: Galli=C3=AB, German: Gallien, Greek: =CE=93=CE=B1=
=CE=BB=CE=BB=CE=AF=CE=B1) was a
> > region of Western Europe during the Iron Age and Roman era,
> > encompassing present day France, Luxembourg and Belgium, most of
> > Switzerland, the western part of Northern Italy, as well as the
> > parts of the Netherlands and Germany on the west bank of the Rhine.
> > "
> >
> >
> > 4. msgid "Latin 'germania' is an old name for Germany"
> >
> > The aforementioned string describes the origin of name "Germanium".
> > Like the 'Gallia' case, you can see
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germania .
> >
> >
> > 5. msgid "Ruthenia is the old name of Russia"
> >
> > The aforementioned string describes the origin of the name
> > "Ruthenium". Same as above, you can see
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruthenia
> >
> >
> > 6. msgid "Greek 'rhodeos' means 'red like a rose'"
> >
> > The aforementioned string describes the origin of the name "Rhodium".
> > But, greek =CF=81=CF=8C=CE=B4=CE=B9=CE=BF=CF=82 (rhodeos) means "from R=
ode". Probably, the
> > intended word was =CF=81=CF=8C=CE=B4=CE=B9=CE=BD=CE=BF=CF=82 (rodinos) =
which means "rosy"
> >
> >
> > 7. msgid "Greek 'dysprositor' for 'difficult to reach'"
> >
> > The aforementioned string describes the origin of the name
> > "Dysprosium". Nevertheless, there is no such word in Greek. The
> > right word is =CE=B4=CF=85=CF=83=CF=80=CF=81=CF=8C=CF=83=CE=B9=CF=84=CE=
=BF=CF=82 (disprositos).
> >
> >
> > 8. msgid "Like Terbium and Gadolinium, this is named after the
> > Swedish town of Ytterby."
> >
> > The aforementioned string describes the origin of the name
> > "Ytterbium", saying that Gadolinium is named after Ytterby. But
> > Gadolinium is named after the Finnish chemist Johan Gadolin",
> > according to its description.
> >
> >
> > 9. msgid "Greek 'astator' for 'changing'"
> >
> > The aforementioned string describes the origin of the name
> > "Astatine". Nevertheless, there is no such word in Greek. The right
> > word is =CE=AC=CF=83=CF=84=CE=B1=CF=84=CE=BF=CF=82 (astatos).
> >
> >
> > 10. msgid "This name has Greek roots. It means 'like Platinum' - it
> > was difficult to "
> > "distinguish Molybdenum from Platinum."
> >
> > The aforementioned string describes the origin of the name
> > "Molybdenum". Nevertheless, it has no such a meaning. The origin of
> > the name is Ancient Greek =CE=9C=CF=8C=CE=BB=CF=85=CE=B2=CE=B4=CE=BF=CF=
=82 (molybdos), meaning lead, since
> > its ores were confused with lead ores.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dimitris
> >
> > --
> > Dimitris
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<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br></div>Thanks Dimitis. Thats quite a \
review.<br><br></div>Most of the strings mentioned come from the elements.xml file \
(libsience/data/elements.xml). If possible the patch should also be applied upstream \
to the blue obelisk project. Thats where the informations about elements comes \
from.<br> <br></div>Etienne<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div \
class="gmail_quote">2013/1/4 Anne-Marie Mahfouf <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr" \
target="_blank">annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr</a>></span><br> <blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Dimitris,<br> <br>
Can you note down the incorrect strings and their exact replacement please so I can \
commit to Kalzium source?<br> Thanks in advance,<br>
<br>
Anne-Marie<br>
<br>
----- Mail original -----<br>
> De: "Dimitris Kardarakos" <<a \
href="mailto:dimkard@gmail.com">dimkard@gmail.com</a>><br> > À: <a \
href="mailto:kde-edu@kde.org">kde-edu@kde.org</a><br> > Envoyé: Jeudi 3 Janvier \
2013 14:17:03<br> > Objet: kalzium strings issue<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Hi.<br>
><br>
> Translating kalzium.po I stumbled upon some strings that seem<br>
> invalid.<br>
><br>
> 1. msgid "It was discovered near a town named Magnesia in black<br>
> earth. Thus, it was "<br>
> "named 'magnesia nigra', or for short, Manganese."<br>
><br>
> The aforementioned string describes the origin of the name<br>
> "Manganese". Nevertheless, there is no place like "black \
earth" in<br> > Greece. You can see <a \
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese" \
target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese</a> where<br> > the origin \
of the name is described.<br> ><br>
><br>
> 2. msgid "Greek 'cuprum' for Cypres"<br>
><br>
> The aforementioned string describes the origin of the name \
"Copper".<br> > Cuprum is a latin word, not Greek, and according to \
Wikipedia "In<br> > the Roman era, copper was principally mined on Cyprus, \
hence the<br> > origin of the name of the metal as сyprium (metal of Cyprus), \
later<br> > shortened to сuprum"<br>
><br>
><br>
> 3. msgid "'Gallia' is an old name for France"<br>
><br>
> The aforementioned string describes the origin of the name \
"Gallium".<br> > I think that saying that Gallia is the old name of \
France is<br> > misleading. Again, according to Wikipedia "Gaul (Latin: \
Gallia,<br> > French: Gaule, Dutch: Gallië, German: Gallien, Greek: Γαλλία) \
was a<br> > region of Western Europe during the Iron Age and Roman era,<br>
> encompassing present day France, Luxembourg and Belgium, most of<br>
> Switzerland, the western part of Northern Italy, as well as the<br>
> parts of the Netherlands and Germany on the west bank of the Rhine.<br>
> "<br>
><br>
><br>
> 4. msgid "Latin 'germania' is an old name for Germany"<br>
><br>
> The aforementioned string describes the origin of name \
"Germanium".<br> > Like the 'Gallia' case, you can see<br>
> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germania" \
target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germania</a> .<br> ><br>
><br>
> 5. msgid "Ruthenia is the old name of Russia"<br>
><br>
> The aforementioned string describes the origin of the name<br>
> "Ruthenium". Same as above, you can see<br>
> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruthenia" \
target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruthenia</a><br> ><br>
><br>
> 6. msgid "Greek 'rhodeos' means 'red like a rose'"<br>
><br>
> The aforementioned string describes the origin of the name \
"Rhodium".<br> > But, greek ρόδιος (rhodeos) means "from \
Rode". Probably, the<br> > intended word was ρόδινος (rodinos) which \
means "rosy"<br> ><br>
><br>
> 7. msgid "Greek 'dysprositor' for 'difficult to \
reach'"<br> ><br>
> The aforementioned string describes the origin of the name<br>
> "Dysprosium". Nevertheless, there is no such word in Greek. The<br>
> right word is δυσπρόσιτος (disprositos).<br>
><br>
><br>
> 8. msgid "Like Terbium and Gadolinium, this is named after the<br>
> Swedish town of Ytterby."<br>
><br>
> The aforementioned string describes the origin of the name<br>
> "Ytterbium", saying that Gadolinium is named after Ytterby. But<br>
> Gadolinium is named after the Finnish chemist Johan Gadolin",<br>
> according to its description.<br>
><br>
><br>
> 9. msgid "Greek 'astator' for 'changing'"<br>
><br>
> The aforementioned string describes the origin of the name<br>
> "Astatine". Nevertheless, there is no such word in Greek. The \
right<br> > word is άστατος (astatos).<br>
><br>
><br>
> 10. msgid "This name has Greek roots. It means 'like Platinum' - \
it<br> > was difficult to "<br>
> "distinguish Molybdenum from Platinum."<br>
><br>
> The aforementioned string describes the origin of the name<br>
> "Molybdenum". Nevertheless, it has no such a meaning. The origin \
of<br> > the name is Ancient Greek Μόλυβδος (molybdos), meaning lead, \
since<br> > its ores were confused with lead ores.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Dimitris<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Dimitris<br>
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> kde-edu mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
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target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> ><br>
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