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From: Percy_Camilo_Triveño_Aucahuasi <percy.camilo.ta () gmail ! com>
Date: 2012-08-08 15:32:09
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Hi all,
I'm studying Mathematics too and using the Sage backend; indeed Cantor is a
wonderful tool.
Alexander Rieder worte:
>this sounds like a great use-case for Cantor and an even better
opportunity to
>gain insight in its current shortcomings. I'd love to work with you on
making
>Cantor a better tool for teaching.
I've always thought that Cantor's backend system can allow us to offer
different levels of features to the users (mostly students): Backends like
Sage and scilab for advanced maths and work in the KAlgebra (analitza)
backend for non-advanced maths. Its just an idea for the future. Also,
improve Cantor with use cases for teachers would be awesome!
Marcelo Pires wrote:
>I'm with a thesis project where I want to discuss mathematics and
>Free Software, as in fact be using free software in teaching
>basic math to higher mathematics.
It's a very interesting topic for a thesis project, I hope the pappers of
David Tall can help you:
http://homepages.warwick.ac.uk/staff/David.Tall/downloads.html
specially:
http://homepages.warwick.ac.uk/staff/David.Tall/pdfs/dot1987e-graphic-packa=
ges.pdf
helped me a lot when I was doing my thesis too.
Best regards,
Percy
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Alexander Rieder
<alexanderrieder@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 August 2012 10:13:20 Melissa Mendon=E7a wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > This might be the time for me to jump into the conversation. I'm here
> > because Tomaz basically forced me to join (lol), I'm a professor at
> > the Mathematics Department at the Federal University of Santa Catarina
> > (Brazil), and I'm also very interested in these topics. However, I'm
> > more interested in the higher education part and I see great potential
> > for Cantor as a report/assignment generating tool. For example, I
> > teach programming classes in the math department (using MATLAB/Octave)
> > and my students could use Cantor to deliver code along with the
> > results and comments.
> >
> > I'm very interested and could help in the technical side (development,
> > although I'm not a very experienced C++/Qt programmer, more
> > Fortran/Python/C/Matlab).
> >
> > Anyway, Marcelo feel free to contact me in Portuguese if you need
> anything.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Melissa
>
> Hi,
> this sounds like a great use-case for Cantor and an even better
> opportunity to
> gain insight in its current shortcomings. I'd love to work with you on
> making
> Cantor a better tool for teaching.
> As I am a student and wrote Cantor to fit my personal needs, it would be
> greate
> to gain insight to your needs from a teachers prespective.
>
> best regards,
> Alexander Rieder
>
>
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol@kde.org> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Marcelo Pires <marte032@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> Hello, okay? I am a student of mathematics, and would like to know
> your
> > >> opinion about mathematics and software in the world. Here in Brazil,
> the
> > >> government adopts free software in schools and universities, without
> the
> > >> prospect of building its own technology. Use free software, only to =
be
> > >> free, without a high cost to the government.
> > >> I'm with a thesis project where I want to discuss mathematics and Fr=
ee
> > >> Software, as in fact be using free software in teaching basic math t=
o
> > >> higher mathematics.
> > >>
> > >> I await your response.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks in advance.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Att. Marcelo Pires da Silva
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> kde-edu mailing list
> > >> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> > >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
> > >
> > > Hi Marcelo!
> > > It's great that you're interested in this, mathematics, education and
> > > free software is a huge subject.
> > >
> > > In KDE Edu we have some pieces of software that fit your requirements=
.
> > > Maybe Cantor like Tomaz said and also KAlgebra, Kmplot and if you loo=
k
> > > a bit further in the future Khipu. Khipu is specially interesting
> > > though, because it's specially aimed for teachers who want to teach
> > > mathematics in class, using the computer. In this case, for displayin=
g
> > > wonderful plots.
> > >
> > > Said that, it would be interesting if you take a look at what we've
> > > done and kickstart a bit the discussion regarding the subjects that
> > > concern you, I'm pretty sure it can be interesting for all of us!
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > > Aleix
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > kde-edu mailing list
> > > kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
> _______________________________________________
> kde-edu mailing list
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Hi all,<br><br>I'm studying Mathematics too and using the Sage backend; indeed \
Cantor is a wonderful tool.<br><br> <span class="gI"><span name="Alexander Rieder" \
class="gD">Alexander Rieder worte:</span></span><br> >this sounds like a great \
use-case for Cantor and an even better opportunity to<br>
>gain insight in its current shortcomings. I'd love to work with you on \
making<br>
>Cantor a better tool for teaching.<br>
<br>I've always thought that Cantor's backend system can allow us to
offer different levels of features to the users (mostly students):
Backends like Sage and scilab for advanced maths and work in the
KAlgebra (analitza) backend for non-advanced maths. Its just an idea for
the future. Also, improve Cantor with use cases for teachers would be
awesome!<br><br>
<span tabindex="0" class="e" id=":192" title="Marcelo Pires">Marcelo Pires</span> \
wrote:<br>>I'm with a thesis project where I want to discuss mathematics and \
<br> >Free
Software, as in fact be using free software in teaching <br>
>basic math to
higher mathematics.<br><br>It's a very interesting topic for a thesis project, I \
hope the pappers of David Tall can help you:<br><br><a \
href="http://homepages.warwick.ac.uk/staff/David.Tall/downloads.html">http://homepages.warwick.ac.uk/staff/David.Tall/downloads.html</a><br>
<br>specially:<br><br><a \
href="http://homepages.warwick.ac.uk/staff/David.Tall/pdfs/dot1987e-graphic-packages.p \
df">http://homepages.warwick.ac.uk/staff/David.Tall/pdfs/dot1987e-graphic-packages.pdf</a><br><br>helped \
me a lot when I was doing my thesis too.<br> <br>Best \
regards,<br>Percy<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:34 \
AM, Alexander Rieder <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alexanderrieder@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">alexanderrieder@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">On Wednesday 08 August 2012 10:13:20 Melissa \
Mendonça wrote:<br> > Hello,<br>
><br>
> This might be the time for me to jump into the conversation. I'm here<br>
> because Tomaz basically forced me to join (lol), I'm a professor at<br>
> the Mathematics Department at the Federal University of Santa Catarina<br>
> (Brazil), and I'm also very interested in these topics. However, I'm<br>
> more interested in the higher education part and I see great potential<br>
> for Cantor as a report/assignment generating tool. For example, I<br>
> teach programming classes in the math department (using MATLAB/Octave)<br>
> and my students could use Cantor to deliver code along with the<br>
> results and comments.<br>
><br>
> I'm very interested and could help in the technical side (development,<br>
> although I'm not a very experienced C++/Qt programmer, more<br>
> Fortran/Python/C/Matlab).<br>
><br>
> Anyway, Marcelo feel free to contact me in Portuguese if you need anything.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> Melissa<br>
<br>
</div>Hi,<br>
this sounds like a great use-case for Cantor and an even better opportunity to<br>
gain insight in its current shortcomings. I'd love to work with you on making<br>
Cantor a better tool for teaching.<br>
As I am a student and wrote Cantor to fit my personal needs, it would be greate<br>
to gain insight to your needs from a teachers prespective.<br>
<br>
best regards,<br>
Alexander Rieder<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Aleix Pol <<a \
href="mailto:aleixpol@kde.org">aleixpol@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br> > > On Wed, \
Aug 8, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Marcelo Pires <<a \
href="mailto:marte032@gmail.com">marte032@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> > >> \
Hello, okay? I am a student of mathematics, and would like to know your<br> > \
>> opinion about mathematics and software in the world. Here in Brazil, the<br> \
> >> government adopts free software in schools and universities, without \
the<br> > >> prospect of building its own technology. Use free software, \
only to be<br> > >> free, without a high cost to the government.<br>
> >> I'm with a thesis project where I want to discuss mathematics and \
Free<br> > >> Software, as in fact be using free software in teaching basic \
math to<br> > >> higher mathematics.<br>
> >><br>
> >> I await your response.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Thanks in advance.<br>
> >><br>
> >> --<br>
> >> Att. Marcelo Pires da Silva<br>
> >><br>
> >> _______________________________________________<br>
> >> kde-edu mailing list<br>
> >> <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
> >> <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> > ><br>
> > Hi Marcelo!<br>
> > It's great that you're interested in this, mathematics, education \
and<br> > > free software is a huge subject.<br>
> ><br>
> > In KDE Edu we have some pieces of software that fit your requirements.<br>
> > Maybe Cantor like Tomaz said and also KAlgebra, Kmplot and if you look<br>
> > a bit further in the future Khipu. Khipu is specially interesting<br>
> > though, because it's specially aimed for teachers who want to teach<br>
> > mathematics in class, using the computer. In this case, for displaying<br>
> > wonderful plots.<br>
> ><br>
> > Said that, it would be interesting if you take a look at what we've<br>
> > done and kickstart a bit the discussion regarding the subjects that<br>
> > concern you, I'm pretty sure it can be interesting for all of us!<br>
> ><br>
> > Cheers!<br>
> > Aleix<br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > kde-edu mailing list<br>
> > <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
> > <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> \
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