[prev in list] [next in list] [prev in thread] [next in thread]
List: kde-edu-devel
Subject: Re: new Game
From: Aleix Pol <aleixpol () kde ! org>
Date: 2011-08-22 23:34:55
Message-ID: CACcA1RrMkaiziRuAM5_o=qrTYURHWwHZcACTt+QgnqRfdBdgmg () mail ! gmail ! com
[Download RAW message or body]
[Attachment #2 (multipart/alternative)]
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Marco Calignano <marco.calignano@web.de>wrote:
>
>
> On 08/22/2011 10:54 PM, Aleix Pol wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Marco Calignano <marco.calignano@web.de>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 08/22/2011 03:15 PM, simion ploscariu wrote:
>>
>>> Hii,in my implementation i made the menu (that changed the difficulty)
>>> hidden and bring in front by a key combination(so kids can't change
>>> stuff or quit the application) but now i think that older kids can
>>> navigate a picture based menu. For animations we have a lot in Qt to
>>> use(to make cards dissapear or some other effect when a bad answer was
>>> given), also sound feedback is good to have.
>>> The code is easy to write, some nice themes would be nice, I
>>> downloaded and used images ,and i tried to make some animal themes.
>>> I had also the idea to create a database with images and sounds that
>>> can be reused in all kids games and software,maybe when i will have
>>> more time I will manage this(i will ask my wife to make some animal
>>> themes) but for sounds no idea how to generate or record those(you
>>> need some expensive equipment).
>>> Marco maybe you are interested in creating a larger framework for
>>> games for kids,have ideas .
>>>
>> The Framework are probably the stuff I am better at. I am colorblind so
>> do not ask me about color :) . I have musical skills so I could go into that
>> with a bit of work, but my favorite is programming Frame work.
>> I like to project them but here I need help from you. Untill now I worked
>> always at low lavel and since a couple of months I use QT to develop games
>> for my child. (I even bought a book for QT to learn properly)
>>
>> What Albert is saying answering Anne-Marie i find fascinating :
>>
>>> > More generally (this question is more for other KDE people) how do we
>>> > develop an "active" app and a normal one all in one?
>>> Not trivial, you have to almost develop separate UIs (or at least
>>> separate
>>> paths in the same classes) so the recommendation is to keep a clear
>>> separation
>>> between the logic and the UI so you can "plug" a new UI on top.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Something like that is something that I am ready to do.
>> I am impressed that my email stirred up all these answer and these Ideas.
>> I may repeat myself but I think i can work good for you with a bit of
>> direction from you.
>>
>> To go back at the program I could see a video of Kmemory in an rss feed
>> from last year and it is exactly what I mean.
>> I still did manage to compile the code and have it running on my machine
>> but i will (still problems with cmake).
>> I have suggestion for improving the kmemory game but I think like
>> anne-marie saays we should decide how we should proceed.
>> I already feel that we could do something cool.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Marco
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf
>>> <annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun August 21 2011 23:23:53 Marco Calignano wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>> I am Marco and I have an idea for a new game. A memory game.
>>>>> This would be a game for the preschool section.
>>>>> I know my sun likes this game a lot and with a touch screen would be
>>>>> great.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are couple of identical figures, let's say 10 different couples
>>>>> in total 20 cards.
>>>>> All the card are on the table covered in a grid 5x4. The Kid has to
>>>>> turn
>>>>> two of them and find the pairs.
>>>>> Of course if he wrong the card go back covered.
>>>>> He has to remember (that's way memory) where the card were and make new
>>>>> couple.
>>>>>
>>>>> I programmed already a little QT application to teach the connection
>>>>> between keyboard and computer also for my kid when he was younger.
>>>>> I would like to program or at least to help to program to the memory
>>>>> game if it will be developed.
>>>>>
>>>>> What are your opinions on that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bye
>>>>>
>>>>> Marco
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Long ago when I was learning some programming I started such a Memory
>>>> game,
>>>> named Kard.
>>>> However the code is quite old and does not include all the new Qt 4.7
>>>> goodies!
>>>>
>>>> I think that at first we should work on the design to get a UI fit for
>>>> touch
>>>> devices. Do you have any proposal for it (drawing maybe)? Mainly how to
>>>> change level (increased level is more cards) and how to change cards
>>>> theme.
>>>> Also what is difficult is what happen when 2 cards are discovered and do
>>>> not
>>>> match: kids usually keep clicking/touching cards. It's now easy to have
>>>> animations so the cards can be turned back but is there a need to give
>>>> some
>>>> feedback?
>>>> Also how to give feedback at the end of the game.
>>>>
>>>> Coding the app itself will not be so hard as KMemory could be the base
>>>> or
>>>> Simon's Memory one, especially if we are several people :-) But in my
>>>> opinion
>>>> it will only succeed if the design is already roughly sorted out.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> More generally (this question is more for other KDE people) how do we
>>>> develop
>>>> an "active" app and a normal one all in one? was it discussed in the
>>>> Desktop
>>>> Summit? was anyone from KDE Edu at the Intel workshop? If so is there
>>>> someone
>>>> with a tablet who can test Simon's game and KMemory?
>>>>
>>>> Such an app is needed and is great fun for kids as well for aging people
>>>> to
>>>> help them maintain or recover their memory.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Anne-Marie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> kde-edu mailing list
>>>> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>> kde-edu mailing list
>> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>>
>
> If you're interested in KMemory, maybe we can meet some day in IRC and
> discuss what can be done, I'm usually connected in #kde-edu, my nickname is
> apol.
>
> Sure no problem, but now I am also interested in what other is to do here
>
> Cheers
> Marco
>
>
> Cheers!
> Aleix
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> kde-edu mailing listkde-edu@mail.kde.orghttps://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> kde-edu mailing list
> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>
>
Well, I think that the most important is to polish the format that defines
the theme:
- make it possible to bundle a theme in a zip file
- make it possible to define the theme with a wildcard
- make it possible to have different media types: text or sounds could be
fun :)
Aleix
[Attachment #5 (text/html)]
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Marco Calignano <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marco.calignano@web.de">marco.calignano@web.de</a>></span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px \
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><div><div></div><div class="h5">
<br>
<br>
On 08/22/2011 10:54 PM, Aleix Pol wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Marco
Calignano <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marco.calignano@web.de" \
target="_blank">marco.calignano@web.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div><br>
<br>
On 08/22/2011 03:15 PM, simion ploscariu wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px \
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hii,in my implementation i made the menu (that changed \
the difficulty)<br>
hidden and bring in front by a key combination(so kids
can't change<br>
stuff or quit the application) but now i think that older
kids can<br>
navigate a picture based menu. For animations we have a
lot in Qt to<br>
use(to make cards dissapear or some other effect when a
bad answer was<br>
given), also sound feedback is good to have.<br>
The code is easy to write, some nice themes would be nice,
I<br>
downloaded and used images ,and i tried to make some
animal themes.<br>
I had also the idea to create a database with images and
sounds that<br>
can be reused in all kids games and software,maybe when i
will have<br>
more time I will manage this(i will ask my wife to make
some animal<br>
themes) but for sounds no idea how to generate or record
those(you<br>
need some expensive equipment).<br>
Marco maybe you are interested in creating a larger
framework for<br>
games for kids,have ideas .<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
The Framework are probably the stuff I am better at. I am
colorblind so do not ask me about color :) . I have musical
skills so I could go into that with a bit of work, but my
favorite is programming Frame work.<br>
I like to project them but here I need help from you. Untill
now I worked always at low lavel and since a couple of months
I use QT to develop games for my child. (I even bought a book
for QT to learn properly)<br>
<br>
What Albert is saying answering Anne-Marie i find fascinating
:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px \
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div>
> More generally (this question is more for other KDE
people) how do we<br>
> develop an "active" app and a normal one all in \
one?<br> </div>
<div>
Not trivial, you have to almost develop separate UIs (or
at least separate<br>
paths in the same classes) so the recommendation is to
keep a clear separation<br>
between the logic and the UI so you can "plug" a new UI
on top.<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
Something like that is something that I am ready to do.<br>
I am impressed that my email stirred up all these answer and
these Ideas.<br>
I may repeat myself but I think i can work good for you with a
bit of direction from you.<br>
<br>
To go back at the program I could see a video of Kmemory in an
rss feed from last year and it is exactly what I mean.<br>
I still did manage to compile the code and have it running on
my machine but i will (still problems with cmake).<br>
I have suggestion for improving the kmemory game but I think
like anne-marie saays we should decide how we should proceed.<br>
I already feel that we could do something cool.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<font color="#888888">
Marco</font>
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
<br>
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf<br>
<<a href="mailto:annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr" \
target="_blank">annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On Sun August 21 2011 23:23:53 Marco Calignano wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi everyone,<br>
I am Marco and I have an idea for a new game. A
memory game.<br>
This would be a game for the preschool section.<br>
I know my sun likes this game a lot and with a touch
screen would be great.<br>
<br>
There are couple of identical figures, let's say 10
different couples<br>
in total 20 cards.<br>
All the card are on the table covered in a grid 5x4.
The Kid has to turn<br>
two of them and find the pairs.<br>
Of course if he wrong the card go back covered.<br>
He has to remember (that's way memory) where the
card were and make new<br>
couple.<br>
<br>
I programmed already a little QT application to
teach the connection<br>
between keyboard and computer also for my kid when
he was younger.<br>
I would like to program or at least to help to
program to the memory<br>
game if it will be developed.<br>
<br>
What are your opinions on that?<br>
<br>
Bye<br>
<br>
Marco<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
Hi,<br>
<br>
Long ago when I was learning some programming I
started such a Memory game,<br>
named Kard.<br>
However the code is quite old and does not include all
the new Qt 4.7 goodies!<br>
<br>
I think that at first we should work on the design to
get a UI fit for touch<br>
devices. Do you have any proposal for it (drawing
maybe)? Mainly how to<br>
change level (increased level is more cards) and how
to change cards theme.<br>
Also what is difficult is what happen when 2 cards are
discovered and do not<br>
match: kids usually keep clicking/touching cards. It's
now easy to have<br>
animations so the cards can be turned back but is
there a need to give some<br>
feedback?<br>
Also how to give feedback at the end of the game.<br>
<br>
Coding the app itself will not be so hard as KMemory
could be the base or<br>
Simon's Memory one, especially if we are several
people :-) But in my opinion<br>
it will only succeed if the design is already roughly
sorted out.<br>
<br>
<br>
More generally (this question is more for other KDE
people) how do we develop<br>
an "active" app and a normal one all in one? was it
discussed in the Desktop<br>
Summit? was anyone from KDE Edu at the Intel workshop?
If so is there someone<br>
with a tablet who can test Simon's game and KMemory?<br>
<br>
Such an app is needed and is great fun for kids as
well for aging people to<br>
help them maintain or recover their memory.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Anne-Marie<br>
<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
kde-edu mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org" \
target="_blank">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
<a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> <br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
_______________________________________________<br>
kde-edu mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org" \
target="_blank">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
<a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> </div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
<div>If you're interested in KMemory, maybe we can meet some day
in IRC and discuss what can be done, I'm usually connected in
#kde-edu, my nickname is apol.</div>
</blockquote></div></div>
Sure no problem, but now I am also interested in what other is to do
here<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
Marco<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers!</div>
<div>Aleix</div><div class="im">
<br>
<fieldset></fieldset>
<br>
<pre>_______________________________________________
kde-edu mailing list
<a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org" target="_blank">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a>
<a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a> </pre>
</div></blockquote>
</div>
<br>_______________________________________________<br>
kde-edu mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
<a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> \
<br></blockquote></div><br><div>Well, I think that the most important is to polish \
the format that defines the theme:</div><div>- make it possible to bundle a theme in \
a zip file</div><div>- make it possible to define the theme with a wildcard</div>
<div>- make it possible to have different media types: text or sounds could be fun \
:)</div><div><br></div><div>Aleix</div>
_______________________________________________
kde-edu mailing list
kde-edu@mail.kde.org
https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
[prev in list] [next in list] [prev in thread] [next in thread]
Configure |
About |
News |
Add a list |
Sponsored by KoreLogic