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From: karan pratap singh <wizard.karan () gmail ! com>
Date: 2011-04-27 10:51:21
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On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol@kde.org> wrote:
> I'm pretty sure that karan will be interested in these problems, since he
> will be working on the edu desktop.
This usability report does look interesting as it will provide hints
regarding the Plasma EDU desktop environment and what the children expect! =
I
am looking forward to read its translation in English!
> It's the demonstration that KDE Edu should be worrying about the desktop =
if
> we want to be in the educational deployments.
>
I think so too!
> Aleix
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Tomaz Canabrava <tcanabrava@kde.org>wrot=
e:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Nuno Pinheiro <nuno.pinheiro@kdab.com>
>> wrote:
>> > A Segunda, 18 de Abril de 2011 16:21:06 Tomaz Canabrava voc=EA escreve=
u:
>> >> not everything-everything, everything that seems to matter.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol@kde.org> wrote:
>> >> > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Tomaz Canabrava <tcanabrava@kde.or=
g
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >> >> ok, translating everything to english.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2011/4/16 Aleix Pol <aleixpol@kde.org>:
>> >> >> > Hi,
>> >> >> > As we discussed some days ago Fl=E1vio Moringa, from the project
>> that
>> >> >> > deployed
>> >> >> > KDE in Portugal schools, has sent me the usability reports they
>> >> >> > prepared to
>> >> >> > see what's needed to deploy properly KDE in education environmen=
ts
>> for
>> >> >> > young
>> >> >> > children.
>> >> >> > Thank you Flavio! :)
>> >> >> > It would be really nice if someone good in Portuguese (who isn't
>> >> >> > trying to
>> >> >> > deduce what's it talking about like I am :) could provide a a li=
st
>> of
>> >> >> > issues
>> >> >> > addressed in this document so that we can take actions in the
>> cases we
>> >> >> > think
>> >> >> > it's appropriate.
>> >> >> > I've uploaded the file in my server because it was too big to be
>> >> >> > attached: http://proli.net/meu/kdeedu/Relatorio_CM_v7.pdf
>> >> >> > Thanks again and let's try to make KDE better for everyone! :D
>> >> >> > Aleix
>> >> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> >> > kde-edu mailing list
>> >> >> > kde-edu@mail.kde.org
>> >> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>> >> >>
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> kde-edu mailing list
>> >> >> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
>> >> >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>> >> >
>> >> > Hey Tomaz...
>> >> > I said to get a list so that we can use your translation as a filte=
r
>> also
>> >> > :P maybe everything is too much for us, isn't it?
>> >> > Aleix
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > kde-edu mailing list
>> >> > kde-edu@mail.kde.org
>> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> kde-edu mailing list
>> >> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
>> >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>> >
>> > wow this is a great document
>>
>> You really think that? I finished filtering and translating it,
>> deleting the stuff I tougth was uninportant for the Edu-Apps, and...
>> nothing was about edu apps, There's plenty of stuff about caixa
>> magica, but on the desktop level, not on the application level.
>>
>> for instance, the study was done by 10 kids, and the questions of the
>> study were:
>> 1 - Can you change the wallpaper?
>> 2 - try to copy a file to the home folder
>> 3 - find out the games that are installed
>> 4 - start supertux, and find out your records
>> 5 - play snake.
>> 6 - where do you go to learn something?
>> 7 - Can you open a text-editor and write your name?
>> 8 - Can you open a office - program and write your name?
>> 9 - can you take a photo of yourself?
>>
>> I'v read all the doc, trying to find anything related to our apps
>> there, and the first time that I got a 'k' app, it had a 'Showstopper'
>> because the title was in english.
>>
>> this comphreends all pages of the study, I think it's usable for the
>> GSoC guy that will do the kde-edu plasma activity, but unsuitable for
>> our apps. No study was done inside any Edu-app, so no data to gather.
>>
>> Yup, I would be very thankful, if I can get a translated copy of this
report.
> Also, the study was done only with 10 kids, and that's not a valid
>> number for a serious study, it too few for a valid output.
>>
>> Yes, you are right, but at least we will have some hints. :)
> Tomaz
>> > --
>> > Nuno Pinheiro | nuno.pinheiro@kdab.com | UI Designer
>> > Klar=E4lvdalens Datakonsult AB, a KDAB Group company
>> > KDAB - Qt Experts - Platform-independent software solutions
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > kde-edu mailing list
>> > kde-edu@mail.kde.org
>> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> kde-edu mailing list
>> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> kde-edu mailing list
> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>
>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Aleix Pol <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aleixpol@kde.org">aleixpol@kde.org</a>></span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; \
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> I'm pretty sure \
that karan will be interested in these problems, since he will be working on the edu \
desktop.</blockquote><div> </div><div>This usability report does look interesting as \
it will provide hints regarding the Plasma EDU desktop environment and what the \
children expect! I am looking forward to read its translation in English!<br> \
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: \
1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> It's the demonstration that \
KDE Edu should be worrying about the desktop if we want to be in the educational \
deployments. <br> </blockquote><div>I think so too!<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, \
204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div></div><div><font \
color="#888888">Aleix</font><div> <div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div \
class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Tomaz Canabrava <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tcanabrava@kde.org" \
target="_blank">tcanabrava@kde.org</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, \
204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div></div><div>On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Nuno Pinheiro <<a \
href="mailto:nuno.pinheiro@kdab.com" target="_blank">nuno.pinheiro@kdab.com</a>> \
wrote:<br> > A Segunda, 18 de Abril de 2011 16:21:06 Tomaz Canabrava você \
escreveu:<br> >> not everything-everything, everything that seems to \
matter.<br> >><br>
>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Aleix Pol <<a \
href="mailto:aleixpol@kde.org" target="_blank">aleixpol@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br> \
>> > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Tomaz Canabrava <<a \
href="mailto:tcanabrava@kde.org" target="_blank">tcanabrava@kde.org</a>><br> > \
wrote:<br> >> >> ok, translating everything to english.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> 2011/4/16 Aleix Pol <<a href="mailto:aleixpol@kde.org" \
target="_blank">aleixpol@kde.org</a>>:<br> >> >> > Hi,<br>
>> >> > As we discussed some days ago Flávio Moringa, from the project \
that<br> >> >> > deployed<br>
>> >> > KDE in Portugal schools, has sent me the usability reports \
they<br> >> >> > prepared to<br>
>> >> > see what's needed to deploy properly KDE in education \
environments for<br> >> >> > young<br>
>> >> > children.<br>
>> >> > Thank you Flavio! :)<br>
>> >> > It would be really nice if someone good in Portuguese (who \
isn't<br> >> >> > trying to<br>
>> >> > deduce what's it talking about like I am :) could provide \
a a list of<br> >> >> > issues<br>
>> >> > addressed in this document so that we can take actions in the \
cases we<br> >> >> > think<br>
>> >> > it's appropriate.<br>
>> >> > I've uploaded the file in my server because it was too big \
to be<br> >> >> > attached: <a \
href="http://proli.net/meu/kdeedu/Relatorio_CM_v7.pdf" \
target="_blank">http://proli.net/meu/kdeedu/Relatorio_CM_v7.pdf</a><br> >> \
>> > Thanks again and let's try to make KDE better for everyone! :D<br> \
>> >> > Aleix<br> >> >> > \
_______________________________________________<br> >> >> > kde-edu \
mailing list<br> >> >> > <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org" \
target="_blank">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br> >> >> > <a \
href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> >> \
>><br> >> >> _______________________________________________<br>
>> >> kde-edu mailing list<br>
>> >> <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org" \
target="_blank">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br> >> >> <a \
href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> >> \
><br> >> > Hey Tomaz...<br>
>> > I said to get a list so that we can use your translation as a filter \
also<br> >> > :P maybe everything is too much for us, isn't it?<br>
>> > Aleix<br>
>> > _______________________________________________<br>
>> > kde-edu mailing list<br>
>> > <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org" \
target="_blank">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br> >> > <a \
href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> >><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> kde-edu mailing list<br>
>> <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org" \
target="_blank">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br> >> <a \
href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> ><br>
> wow this is a great document<br>
<br>
</div></div>You really think that? I finished filtering and translating it,<br>
deleting the stuff I tougth was uninportant for the Edu-Apps, and...<br>
nothing was about edu apps, There's plenty of stuff about caixa<br>
magica, but on the desktop level, not on the application level.<br>
<br>
for instance, the study was done by 10 kids, and the questions of the<br>
study were:<br>
1 - Can you change the wallpaper?<br>
2 - try to copy a file to the home folder<br>
3 - find out the games that are installed<br>
4 - start supertux, and find out your records<br>
5 - play snake.<br>
6 - where do you go to learn something?<br>
7 - Can you open a text-editor and write your name?<br>
8 - Can you open a office - program and write your name?<br>
9 - can you take a photo of yourself?<br>
<br>
I'v read all the doc, trying to find anything related to our apps<br>
there, and the first time that I got a 'k' app, it had a \
'Showstopper'<br> because the title was in english.<br>
<br>
this comphreends all pages of the study, I think it's usable for the<br>
GSoC guy that will do the kde-edu plasma activity, but unsuitable for<br>
our apps. No study was done inside any Edu-app, so no data to gather.<br>
<br></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>Yup, I would be very \
thankful, if I can get a translated copy of this report. <br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, \
204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> <div><div><div class="h5"><div \
class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; \
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> Also, the study was \
done only with 10 kids, and that's not a valid<br> number for a serious study, it \
too few for a valid output.<br> \
<br></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>Yes, you are right, but at \
least we will have some hints. :) <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); \
padding-left: 1ex;"> <div><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, \
204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> Tomaz<br>
> --<br>
<div>> Nuno Pinheiro | <a href="mailto:nuno.pinheiro@kdab.com" \
target="_blank">nuno.pinheiro@kdab.com</a> | UI Designer<br> > Klarälvdalens \
Datakonsult AB, a KDAB Group company<br> > KDAB - Qt Experts - \
Platform-independent software solutions<br> > \
_______________________________________________<br> > kde-edu mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org" \
target="_blank">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br> > <a \
href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> ><br>
</div><div><div></div><div>_______________________________________________<br>
kde-edu mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org" target="_blank">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
<a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> \
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div> \
<br>_______________________________________________<br> kde-edu mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
<a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> \
<br></blockquote></div><br>from<br>Karan Pratap Singh<br>IRC nick: kps_foo<br>
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