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From:       Aleix Pol <aleixpol () kde ! org>
Date:       2011-04-26 13:20:12
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I'm pretty sure that karan will be interested in these problems, since he
will be working on the edu desktop. It's the demonstration that KDE Edu
should be worrying about the desktop if we want to be in the educational
deployments.

Aleix

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Tomaz Canabrava <tcanabrava@kde.org> wrote=
:

> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Nuno Pinheiro <nuno.pinheiro@kdab.com>
> wrote:
> > A Segunda, 18 de Abril de 2011 16:21:06 Tomaz Canabrava voc=C3=AA escre=
veu:
> >> not everything-everything, everything that seems to matter.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol@kde.org> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Tomaz Canabrava <tcanabrava@kde.org=
>
> > wrote:
> >> >> ok, translating everything to english.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2011/4/16 Aleix Pol <aleixpol@kde.org>:
> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> > As we discussed some days ago Fl=C3=A1vio Moringa, from the proje=
ct that
> >> >> > deployed
> >> >> > KDE in Portugal schools, has sent me the usability reports they
> >> >> > prepared to
> >> >> > see what's needed to deploy properly KDE in education environment=
s
> for
> >> >> > young
> >> >> > children.
> >> >> > Thank you Flavio! :)
> >> >> > It would be really nice if someone good in Portuguese (who isn't
> >> >> > trying to
> >> >> > deduce what's it talking about like I am :) could provide a a lis=
t
> of
> >> >> > issues
> >> >> > addressed in this document so that we can take actions in the cas=
es
> we
> >> >> > think
> >> >> > it's appropriate.
> >> >> > I've uploaded the file in my server because it was too big to be
> >> >> > attached: http://proli.net/meu/kdeedu/Relatorio_CM_v7.pdf
> >> >> > Thanks again and let's try to make KDE better for everyone! :D
> >> >> > Aleix
> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> > kde-edu mailing list
> >> >> > kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> >> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
> >> >>
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> kde-edu mailing list
> >> >> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> >> >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
> >> >
> >> > Hey Tomaz...
> >> > I said to get a list so that we can use your translation as a filter
> also
> >> > :P maybe everything is too much for us, isn't it?
> >> > Aleix
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > kde-edu mailing list
> >> > kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> kde-edu mailing list
> >> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
> >
> > wow this is a great document
>
> You really think that? I finished filtering and translating it,
> deleting the stuff I tougth was uninportant for the Edu-Apps, and...
> nothing was about edu apps, There's plenty of stuff about caixa
> magica, but on the desktop level, not on the application level.
>
> for instance, the study was done by 10 kids, and the questions of the
> study were:
> 1 - Can you change the wallpaper?
> 2 - try to copy a file to the home folder
> 3 - find out the games that are installed
> 4 - start supertux, and find out your records
> 5 - play snake.
> 6 - where do you go to learn something?
> 7 - Can you open a text-editor and write your name?
> 8 - Can you open a office - program and write your name?
> 9 - can you take a photo of yourself?
>
> I'v read all the doc, trying to find anything related to our apps
> there, and the first time that I got a 'k' app, it had a 'Showstopper'
> because the title was in english.
>
> this comphreends all pages of the study, I think it's usable for the
> GSoC guy that will do the kde-edu plasma activity, but unsuitable for
> our apps. No study was done inside any Edu-app, so no data to gather.
>
> Also, the study was done only with 10 kids, and that's not a valid
> number for a serious study, it too few for a valid output.
>
> Tomaz
> > --
> > Nuno Pinheiro | nuno.pinheiro@kdab.com | UI Designer
> > Klar=C3=A4lvdalens Datakonsult AB, a KDAB Group company
> > KDAB - Qt Experts - Platform-independent software solutions
> > _______________________________________________
> > kde-edu mailing list
> > kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
> >
> _______________________________________________
> kde-edu mailing list
> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
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>

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I&#39;m pretty sure that karan will be interested in these problems, since he will be \
working on the edu desktop. It&#39;s the demonstration that KDE Edu should be \
worrying about the desktop if we want to be in the educational deployments.<div>

<br></div><div>Aleix<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:18 PM, \
Tomaz Canabrava <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a \
href="mailto:tcanabrava@kde.org">tcanabrava@kde.org</a>&gt;</span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px \
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

<div><div></div><div class="h5">On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Nuno Pinheiro \
&lt;<a href="mailto:nuno.pinheiro@kdab.com">nuno.pinheiro@kdab.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> \
&gt; A Segunda, 18 de Abril de 2011 16:21:06 Tomaz Canabrava você escreveu:<br> \
&gt;&gt; not everything-everything, everything that seems to matter.<br> &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Aleix Pol &lt;<a \
href="mailto:aleixpol@kde.org">aleixpol@kde.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt;&gt; &gt; On \
Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Tomaz Canabrava &lt;<a \
href="mailto:tcanabrava@kde.org">tcanabrava@kde.org</a>&gt;<br> &gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; ok, translating everything to english.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 2011/4/16 Aleix Pol &lt;<a \
href="mailto:aleixpol@kde.org">aleixpol@kde.org</a>&gt;:<br> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; \
Hi,<br> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; As we discussed some days ago Flávio Moringa, from \
the project that<br> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; deployed<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; KDE in Portugal schools, has sent me the usability reports \
they<br> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; prepared to<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; see what&#39;s needed to deploy properly KDE in education \
environments for<br> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; young<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; children.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Thank you Flavio! :)<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; It would be really nice if someone good in Portuguese (who \
isn&#39;t<br> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; trying to<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; deduce what&#39;s it talking about like I am :) could provide \
a a list of<br> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; issues<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; addressed in this document so that we can take actions in the \
cases we<br> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; think<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; it&#39;s appropriate.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; I&#39;ve uploaded the file in my server because it was too big \
to be<br> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; attached: <a \
href="http://proli.net/meu/kdeedu/Relatorio_CM_v7.pdf" \
target="_blank">http://proli.net/meu/kdeedu/Relatorio_CM_v7.pdf</a><br> &gt;&gt; \
&gt;&gt; &gt; Thanks again and let&#39;s try to make KDE better for everyone! :D<br> \
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Aleix<br> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; \
_______________________________________________<br> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; kde-edu \
mailing list<br> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; <a \
href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; \
&gt; <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> &gt;&gt; \
&gt;&gt;<br> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; kde-edu mailing list<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> &gt;&gt; \
&gt;<br> &gt;&gt; &gt; Hey Tomaz...<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; I said to get a list so that we can use your translation as a filter \
also<br> &gt;&gt; &gt; :P maybe everything is too much for us, isn&#39;t it?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Aleix<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; kde-edu mailing list<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;&gt; kde-edu mailing list<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
&gt;&gt; <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> &gt;<br>
&gt; wow this is a great document<br>
<br>
</div></div>You really think that? I finished filtering and translating it,<br>
deleting the stuff I tougth was uninportant for the Edu-Apps, and...<br>
nothing was about edu apps, There&#39;s plenty of stuff about caixa<br>
magica, but on the desktop level, not on the application level.<br>
<br>
for instance, the study was done by 10 kids, and the questions of the<br>
study were:<br>
1 - Can you change the wallpaper?<br>
2 - try to copy a file to the home folder<br>
3 - find out the games that are installed<br>
4 - start supertux, and find out your records<br>
5 - play snake.<br>
6 - where do you go to learn something?<br>
7 - Can you open a text-editor and write your name?<br>
8 - Can you open a office - program and write your name?<br>
9 - can you take a photo of yourself?<br>
<br>
I&#39;v read all the doc, trying to find anything related to our apps<br>
there, and the first time that I got a &#39;k&#39; app, it had a \
&#39;Showstopper&#39;<br> because the title was in english.<br>
<br>
this comphreends all pages of the study, I think it&#39;s usable for the<br>
GSoC guy that will do the kde-edu plasma activity, but unsuitable for<br>
our apps. No study was done inside any Edu-app, so no data to gather.<br>
<br>
Also, the study was done only with 10 kids, and that&#39;s not a valid<br>
number for a serious study, it too few for a valid output.<br>
<br>
Tomaz<br>
&gt; --<br>
<div class="im">&gt; Nuno Pinheiro | <a \
href="mailto:nuno.pinheiro@kdab.com">nuno.pinheiro@kdab.com</a> | UI Designer<br> \
&gt; Klarälvdalens Datakonsult AB, a KDAB Group company<br> &gt; KDAB - Qt Experts - \
Platform-independent software solutions<br> &gt; \
_______________________________________________<br> &gt; kde-edu mailing list<br>
&gt; <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
&gt; <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> &gt;<br>
</div><div><div></div><div \
class="h5">_______________________________________________<br> kde-edu mailing \
list<br> <a href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br>
<a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> \
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>



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