On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol@kde.org> wrote:

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 a= t 1:32 PM, Frederik Gladhorn <gladhorn@kde.org> wrote:
Hi,
I'm happy to hear that KEduca is progressing :)
About the meeting: I'd like to join in. I will also try to invite a ger= man
teacher who has been helping me with Parley (he uses it at his school).

The meeting should be on IRC (freenode.net). Most of us hang out there anyway
(#kde-edu is the channel though we can create a new channel for the meeting= to
avoid being disturbed).

+1
=A0

I don't have much time in the near future due to traveling. How would t= he first
May weekend sound? I would propose Sat/Sun May 1st or 2nd.
Time zone wise we need something to fit Europe and Brazil as far as I
understand.

I'm not sure where I'll be t= hat weekend, we can do it late-ish on sunday maybe? Brazil is -6 or so from= europe, afaik.

Thanks!
Aleix
=A0

Greetings,
Frederik

On Tuesday 20 April 2010 02:11:26 Duda Nogueira wrote:
> I am At GMT-3
>
> and you?
>
> do you have any jabber / gtalk?
>
> dudano= gueira@jabber-br.org
>
> Duda Nogueira
> Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia
> www.dudan= ogueira.com.br
>
> Celular: +55 31 9985-1271
>
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol@kde.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Duda Nogueira <dudanogueira@gmail.com&g= t;
> >
> > wrote:
> >> I am also mostly available!
> >>
> >> Just point a date and time, and I'll be there!
> >>
> >> :)
> >>
> >> Duda Nogueira
> >> Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia
> >> = www.dudanogueira.com.br
> >>
> >> Celular: +55 31 9985-1271
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol@kde.org> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Duda Nogueira
> >> > <dudanogueira@gmail.com>
> >> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> Anne,
> >> >>
> >> >> Amanda told me about Akademy 2010, and when I saw th= e main topics
> >> >> (specially the "Connecting Our World: Social De= sktop"), I thought
> >> >> that this new KEduca ideas would fit perfectly on a = paper to be
> >> >> presented.
> >> >>
> >> >> So I sent this paper to: akademy-talks@kde.org
> >> >>
> >> >> Name: Jos=E9 Eduardo Campos Nogueira, aka "Duda= Nogueira"
> >> >>
> >> >> Talk Title: A Social and clouded new approach to KDE= -Edu
> >> >>
> >> >> Abstract:
> >> >> As we go towards on the usage of open source in educ= ational projects
> >> >> with huge deployments, we need to not only provide g= ood educational
> >> >> softwares, but ways to deliver content among softwar= e. A new,
> >> >> revamped KEduca looks like the perfect application t= o provide a
> >> >> platform, that will accomplish this goal, together w= ith a remote
> >> >> portal/repository, where users/teachers can share or= improve shared
> >> >> classes.
> >> >> Time needed: 30 minutes talk
> >> >>
> >> >> About me
> >> >> When I first used open source software, it was most = about servers.
> >> >> Soon, I got to use as my desktop. After this, I saw = the possibility
> >> >> to use it for educational purposes. I always liked t= he idea of
> >> >> education + computers. Unfortunately, I couldn't= always work
> >> >> directly with open source, and web development took = place for a few
> >> >> years in my career. Right now I work where I always = wanted: a small
> >> >> yet innovative Linux Based company (Metasys Linux), = aimed to deliver
> >> >> Educational Systems to government projects with abou= t 50.000
> >> >> delivered desktops (netbooks and desktops), and abou= t 200.000 to
> >> >> deliver by the end of this year. All of them with KD= E.
> >> >>
> >> >> References
> >> >> As an Open Source activist, I went to some nice even= ts in Brazil:
> >> >> FISL, Latinoware and other local events. The last ev= ent was
> >> >> Latinoware, Where I got to know Anne Marie, Sandro A= ndrade, Tomaz
> >> >> Canabrava, Adrian de Groot, KDHelio Castro and other= s, just to name a
> >> >> few. After that, I decided to work closely with KDE-= EDU crew.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Duda Nogueira
> >> >> Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia
> >> >> www.dudanogueira.com.br
> >> >>
> >> >> Celular: +55 31 9985-1271
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf<= br> > >> >>
> >> >> <annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr> wrote:
> >> >> > Yes it would be great to have an IRC meeting on= this so we could
> >> >> > refine
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > topic at the Edu meeting.
> >> >> > Aleix, any date? a doodle page?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Best regards,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Anne-Marie
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Saturday 17 April 2010 14:08:48 Duda Nogueir= a wrote:
> >> >> >> Hi Alex!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> That's a great idea. Deliver content am= ong the software is
> >> >> >> definetly the way to Go!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> However, I don't think that relying on = a web content such as
> >> >> >> portal do
> >> >> >> professor is a good idea, not only for the = non semantic content as
> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> pointed, but mainly for the availability an= d stability of the
> >> >> >> whole portal.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Instead of putting the content into the sof= tware, a better aproach
> >> >> >> should be the opposite: put the software in= to the content.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> That's why I think Keduca can be a key = software to do this job,
> >> >> >> integrating content with software.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Picture the usage: Anne wants to teach her = students about calcium/
> >> >> >> milk. She will create a Keduca file, with r= ichmedia (audio, video,
> >> >> >> images, flash, weblinks) grabed from a Crea= tive Commons source,
> >> >> >> and can also link his Keduca class with a s= pecific application,
> >> >> >> even linking a specific word, such as "= ;calcium" to a command,
> >> >> >> like "kalzium
> >> >> >> calcium"
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Anne can also share her class, created on h= er language by clicking
> >> >> >> on
> >> >> >> a button "share", and making it a= vailable on a central repository.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Later, other teacher, named Marie ;) will b= e able to download the
> >> >> >> shared Keduca class, improve it, use it, an= d share it back on the
> >> >> >> central repository.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It can be either a crazy idea or a good vis= ion...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Just a quick correction: Syst, the company = I work for is the same
> >> >> >> as Metasys, but we prefer to be called as M= etasy, for branding
> >> >> >> matters
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> :)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> What do you guys think about that? A meetin= g/brainstorm would be
> >> >> >> great!!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Enviado de meu iPhone
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Em 16/04/2010, =E0s 12:13, Aleix Pol <aleixpol@kde.org>= ; escreveu:
> >> >> >> > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Duda = Nogueira
> >> >> >> > <dudanogueira@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Hi there!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > As Mauricio said, we (Syst) have total= interest in keeping a
> >> >> >> > close contact with KDE and KDE-EDU, he= lping on improvements not
> >> >> >> > only in KEduca app, but the whole Educ= ational stack in open
> >> >> >> > source, whenever
> >> >> >> > possible.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > It's important to note that our di= stro is being shipped in
> >> >> >> > thousands
> >> >> >> > of Intel Classmates. Here in Brazil we= have more then 13.000
> >> >> >> > already
> >> >> >> > delivered, and more 150.000 to go, as = the UCA (One Laptop per
> >> >> >> > Child)
> >> >> >> > Project from Brazil's government i= s being launched.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On the desktop side, we have about 4.0= 00 thousand schools here
> >> >> >> > in our
> >> >> >> > state, Minas Gerais, with approximatel= y 15 computers each, all
> >> >> >> > of them
> >> >> >> > with KDE on in it.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > There is also another dekstop project,= from the Communication
> >> >> >> > area of
> >> >> >> > the government, that plans to deliver = 20.000 labs, each one with
> >> >> >> > 15
> >> >> >> > computers. From this total, 5.000 was = already delivered, and the
> >> >> >> > rest
> >> >> >> > will be delivered on the following mon= ths.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > With KEduca, we want to share/contribu= te with code, expertise
> >> >> >> > and help
> >> >> >> > on stimulating teachers and institutio= ns to develop and share
> >> >> >> > new tests/KEduca files.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The Educational Area of our Government= has an awesome portal
> >> >> >> > (http://portaldoprofessor.mec.gov= .br/recursos.html) with tons of
> >> >> >> > contents (66G so far), and we think it= 'll be a good area to
> >> >> >> > share the
> >> >> >> > pt-br KEduca tests.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I'll be looking closely for the KE= duca-new development, as I
> >> >> >> > truly believe this will a win-win situ= ation, and a very
> >> >> >> > interesting project!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Best Regards!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Duda Nogueira
> >> >> >> > Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia
> >> >> >> > www.dudanogueira.com.br
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Celular: +55 31 9985-1271
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Anne-= Marie Mahfouf
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > <annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr> wrote:
> >> >> >> > > fabulous news and indeed making i= t possible to exchange data
> >> >> >> > > is the
> >> >> >> > > way to go!
> >> >> >> > > Thanks a
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > ______________________________________= _________
> >> >> >> > kde-edu mailing list
> >> >> >> > kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> >> >> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo= /kde-edu
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Hi!!
> >> >> >> > I'm really happy to read such a ma= il. I think that such
> >> >> >> > communication between teachers and dev= elopers is definitely the
> >> >> >> > way
> >> >> >> > to go. If you are interested on workin= g with us, we should
> >> >> >> > create some IRC meeting together (if i= t's not possible to meet
> >> >> >> > live) to think of some way we can do t= hat.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > For starters, even if the website has = an amazing amount of
> >> >> >> > information (I mean it, there's st= uff in catalan, awesome :)) I
> >> >> >> > don't think there's much we ca= n do with that because data is not
> >> >> >> > formatted in any semantic way but we s= hould try to get to that.
> >> >> >> > A good start would be to make it possi= ble to integrate some
> >> >> >> > information into kalzium, they already= have wikipedia
> >> >> >> > information, why not information from = "portal do professor"? To
> >> >> >> > do so we should make it possible to be= able to structure the
> >> >> >> > data a little and to create some RPC i= nterface I guess, do you
> >> >> >> > think that would be possible?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I think it would be great if we could = provide kalgebra modules
> >> >> >> > and maybe cantor sheets for mathematic= al and science
> >> >> >> > information in general. I think this w= ould be far better than
> >> >> >> > the current just-html
> >> >> >> > approach. This would bring up new need= s in hosting applications
> >> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> > that's why we are here, isn't = it?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Well, looking forward to hearing from = you. And remember that
> >> >> >> > we're here for good :D
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Aleix (KAlgebra maintainer)
> >> >> >> > ______________________________________= _________
> >> >> >> > kde-edu mailing list
> >> >> >> > kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> >> >> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo= /kde-edu
> >> >> >
> >> >> > _______________________________________________=
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> >> >> > kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> >> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu<= /a>
> >> >>
> >> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> >> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> >> >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu > >> >
> >> > Yes, the thing is that the kde edu team we're holdin= g a meeting in the
> >> > end
> >> > of May and it would be great to start planning such stuf= f.
> >> > I also sent a talk proposal for KDE Edu for this year= 9;s akademy, we'll
> >> > see
> >> > how it goes. So it would be nice to share some knowledge= and
> >> > intentions before we get to Tampere :)
> >> >
> >> > On the IRC meeting, I'd let the brazilian people to = choose some
> >> > timeframe
> >> > since I'm mostly available. Who would be interested = on joining as
> >> > well?
> >> >
> >> > Aleix
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
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> >> > kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
> >>
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> >
> > What's your timezone?
> >
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