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From:       Aleix Pol <aleixpol () kde ! org>
Date:       2010-04-22 12:42:44
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On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Frederik Gladhorn <gladhorn@kde.org> wrote=
:

> Hi,
> I'm happy to hear that KEduca is progressing :)
> About the meeting: I'd like to join in. I will also try to invite a germa=
n
> teacher who has been helping me with Parley (he uses it at his school).
>
> The meeting should be on IRC (freenode.net). Most of us hang out there
> anyway
> (#kde-edu is the channel though we can create a new channel for the meeti=
ng
> to
> avoid being disturbed).
>
+1


>
> I don't have much time in the near future due to traveling. How would the
> first
> May weekend sound? I would propose Sat/Sun May 1st or 2nd.
> Time zone wise we need something to fit Europe and Brazil as far as I
> understand.
>
I'm not sure where I'll be that weekend, we can do it late-ish on sunday
maybe? Brazil is -6 or so from europe, afaik.

Thanks!
Aleix


>
> Greetings,
> Frederik
>
>
>
> On Tuesday 20 April 2010 02:11:26 Duda Nogueira wrote:
> > I am At GMT-3
> >
> > and you?
> >
> > do you have any jabber / gtalk?
> >
> > dudanogueira@jabber-br.org
> >
> > Duda Nogueira
> > Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia
> > www.dudanogueira.com.br
> >
> > Celular: +55 31 9985-1271
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol@kde.org> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Duda Nogueira <
> dudanogueira@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >> I am also mostly available!
> > >>
> > >> Just point a date and time, and I'll be there!
> > >>
> > >> :)
> > >>
> > >> Duda Nogueira
> > >> Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia
> > >> www.dudanogueira.com.br
> > >>
> > >> Celular: +55 31 9985-1271
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol@kde.org> wrote:
> > >> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Duda Nogueira
> > >> > <dudanogueira@gmail.com>
> > >> >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >> Anne,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Amanda told me about Akademy 2010, and when I saw the main topics
> > >> >> (specially the "Connecting Our World: Social Desktop"), I thought
> > >> >> that this new KEduca ideas would fit perfectly on a paper to be
> > >> >> presented.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> So I sent this paper to: akademy-talks@kde.org
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Name: Jos=C3=A9 Eduardo Campos Nogueira, aka "Duda Nogueira"
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Talk Title: A Social and clouded new approach to KDE-Edu
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Abstract:
> > >> >> As we go towards on the usage of open source in educational
> projects
> > >> >> with huge deployments, we need to not only provide good education=
al
> > >> >> softwares, but ways to deliver content among software. A new,
> > >> >> revamped KEduca looks like the perfect application to provide a
> > >> >> platform, that will accomplish this goal, together with a remote
> > >> >> portal/repository, where users/teachers can share or improve shar=
ed
> > >> >> classes.
> > >> >> Time needed: 30 minutes talk
> > >> >>
> > >> >> About me
> > >> >> When I first used open source software, it was most about servers=
.
> > >> >> Soon, I got to use as my desktop. After this, I saw the possibili=
ty
> > >> >> to use it for educational purposes. I always liked the idea of
> > >> >> education + computers. Unfortunately, I couldn't always work
> > >> >> directly with open source, and web development took place for a f=
ew
> > >> >> years in my career. Right now I work where I always wanted: a sma=
ll
> > >> >> yet innovative Linux Based company (Metasys Linux), aimed to
> deliver
> > >> >> Educational Systems to government projects with about 50.000
> > >> >> delivered desktops (netbooks and desktops), and about 200.000 to
> > >> >> deliver by the end of this year. All of them with KDE.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> References
> > >> >> As an Open Source activist, I went to some nice events in Brazil:
> > >> >> FISL, Latinoware and other local events. The last event was
> > >> >> Latinoware, Where I got to know Anne Marie, Sandro Andrade, Tomaz
> > >> >> Canabrava, Adrian de Groot, KDHelio Castro and others, just to na=
me
> a
> > >> >> few. After that, I decided to work closely with KDE-EDU crew.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Duda Nogueira
> > >> >> Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia
> > >> >> www.dudanogueira.com.br
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Celular: +55 31 9985-1271
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf
> > >> >>
> > >> >> <annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr> wrote:
> > >> >> > Yes it would be great to have an IRC meeting on this so we coul=
d
> > >> >> > refine
> > >> >> > this
> > >> >> > topic at the Edu meeting.
> > >> >> > Aleix, any date? a doodle page?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Best regards,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Anne-Marie
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > On Saturday 17 April 2010 14:08:48 Duda Nogueira wrote:
> > >> >> >> Hi Alex!
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> That's a great idea. Deliver content among the software is
> > >> >> >> definetly the way to Go!
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> However, I don't think that relying on a web content such as
> > >> >> >> portal do
> > >> >> >> professor is a good idea, not only for the non semantic conten=
t
> as
> > >> >> >> you
> > >> >> >> pointed, but mainly for the availability and stability of the
> > >> >> >> whole portal.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Instead of putting the content into the software, a better
> aproach
> > >> >> >> should be the opposite: put the software into the content.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> That's why I think Keduca can be a key software to do this job=
,
> > >> >> >> integrating content with software.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Picture the usage: Anne wants to teach her students about
> calcium/
> > >> >> >> milk. She will create a Keduca file, with richmedia (audio,
> video,
> > >> >> >> images, flash, weblinks) grabed from a Creative Commons source=
,
> > >> >> >> and can also link his Keduca class with a specific application=
,
> > >> >> >> even linking a specific word, such as "calcium" to a command,
> > >> >> >> like "kalzium
> > >> >> >> calcium"
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Anne can also share her class, created on her language by
> clicking
> > >> >> >> on
> > >> >> >> a button "share", and making it available on a central
> repository.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Later, other teacher, named Marie ;) will be able to download
> the
> > >> >> >> shared Keduca class, improve it, use it, and share it back on
> the
> > >> >> >> central repository.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> It can be either a crazy idea or a good vision...
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Just a quick correction: Syst, the company I work for is the
> same
> > >> >> >> as Metasys, but we prefer to be called as Metasy, for branding
> > >> >> >> matters
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> :)
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> What do you guys think about that? A meeting/brainstorm would =
be
> > >> >> >> great!!
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Enviado de meu iPhone
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Em 16/04/2010, =C3=A0s 12:13, Aleix Pol <aleixpol@kde.org> esc=
reveu:
> > >> >> >> > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Duda Nogueira
> > >> >> >> > <dudanogueira@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >> > Hi there!
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > As Mauricio said, we (Syst) have total interest in keeping a
> > >> >> >> > close contact with KDE and KDE-EDU, helping on improvements
> not
> > >> >> >> > only in KEduca app, but the whole Educational stack in open
> > >> >> >> > source, whenever
> > >> >> >> > possible.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > It's important to note that our distro is being shipped in
> > >> >> >> > thousands
> > >> >> >> > of Intel Classmates. Here in Brazil we have more then 13.000
> > >> >> >> > already
> > >> >> >> > delivered, and more 150.000 to go, as the UCA (One Laptop pe=
r
> > >> >> >> > Child)
> > >> >> >> > Project from Brazil's government is being launched.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > On the desktop side, we have about 4.000 thousand schools he=
re
> > >> >> >> > in our
> > >> >> >> > state, Minas Gerais, with approximately 15 computers each, a=
ll
> > >> >> >> > of them
> > >> >> >> > with KDE on in it.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > There is also another dekstop project, from the Communicatio=
n
> > >> >> >> > area of
> > >> >> >> > the government, that plans to deliver 20.000 labs, each one
> with
> > >> >> >> > 15
> > >> >> >> > computers. From this total, 5.000 was already delivered, and
> the
> > >> >> >> > rest
> > >> >> >> > will be delivered on the following months.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > With KEduca, we want to share/contribute with code, expertis=
e
> > >> >> >> > and help
> > >> >> >> > on stimulating teachers and institutions to develop and shar=
e
> > >> >> >> > new tests/KEduca files.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > The Educational Area of our Government has an awesome portal
> > >> >> >> > (http://portaldoprofessor.mec.gov.br/recursos.html) with ton=
s
> of
> > >> >> >> > contents (66G so far), and we think it'll be a good area to
> > >> >> >> > share the
> > >> >> >> > pt-br KEduca tests.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > I'll be looking closely for the KEduca-new development, as I
> > >> >> >> > truly believe this will a win-win situation, and a very
> > >> >> >> > interesting project!
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Best Regards!
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Duda Nogueira
> > >> >> >> > Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia
> > >> >> >> > www.dudanogueira.com.br
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Celular: +55 31 9985-1271
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > <annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr> wrote:
> > >> >> >> > > fabulous news and indeed making it possible to exchange da=
ta
> > >> >> >> > > is the
> > >> >> >> > > way to go!
> > >> >> >> > > Thanks a
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> >> >> > kde-edu mailing list
> > >> >> >> > kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> > >> >> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Hi!!
> > >> >> >> > I'm really happy to read such a mail. I think that such
> > >> >> >> > communication between teachers and developers is definitely
> the
> > >> >> >> > way
> > >> >> >> > to go. If you are interested on working with us, we should
> > >> >> >> > create some IRC meeting together (if it's not possible to me=
et
> > >> >> >> > live) to think of some way we can do that.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > For starters, even if the website has an amazing amount of
> > >> >> >> > information (I mean it, there's stuff in catalan, awesome :)=
)
> I
> > >> >> >> > don't think there's much we can do with that because data is
> not
> > >> >> >> > formatted in any semantic way but we should try to get to
> that.
> > >> >> >> > A good start would be to make it possible to integrate some
> > >> >> >> > information into kalzium, they already have wikipedia
> > >> >> >> > information, why not information from "portal do professor"?
> To
> > >> >> >> > do so we should make it possible to be able to structure the
> > >> >> >> > data a little and to create some RPC interface I guess, do y=
ou
> > >> >> >> > think that would be possible?
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > I think it would be great if we could provide kalgebra modul=
es
> > >> >> >> > and maybe cantor sheets for mathematical and science
> > >> >> >> > information in general. I think this would be far better tha=
n
> > >> >> >> > the current just-html
> > >> >> >> > approach. This would bring up new needs in hosting
> applications
> > >> >> >> > but
> > >> >> >> > that's why we are here, isn't it?
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Well, looking forward to hearing from you. And remember that
> > >> >> >> > we're here for good :D
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Aleix (KAlgebra maintainer)
> > >> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> >> >> > kde-edu mailing list
> > >> >> >> > kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> > >> >> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> >> > kde-edu mailing list
> > >> >> > kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> > >> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
> > >> >>
> > >> >> _______________________________________________
> > >> >> kde-edu mailing list
> > >> >> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> > >> >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
> > >> >
> > >> > Yes, the thing is that the kde edu team we're holding a meeting in
> the
> > >> > end
> > >> > of May and it would be great to start planning such stuff.
> > >> > I also sent a talk proposal for KDE Edu for this year's akademy,
> we'll
> > >> > see
> > >> > how it goes. So it would be nice to share some knowledge and
> > >> > intentions before we get to Tampere :)
> > >> >
> > >> > On the IRC meeting, I'd let the brazilian people to choose some
> > >> > timeframe
> > >> > since I'm mostly available. Who would be interested on joining as
> > >> > well?
> > >> >
> > >> > Aleix
> > >> >
> > >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> > kde-edu mailing list
> > >> > kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> > >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> kde-edu mailing list
> > >> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> > >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
> > >
> > > What's your timezone?
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > kde-edu mailing list
> > > kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > kde-edu mailing list
> > kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>
> _______________________________________________
> kde-edu mailing list
> kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Frederik Gladhorn \
<span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:gladhorn@kde.org">gladhorn@kde.org</a>&gt;</span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; \
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi,<br>
I&#39;m happy to hear that KEduca is progressing :)<br>
About the meeting: I&#39;d like to join in. I will also try to invite a german<br>
teacher who has been helping me with Parley (he uses it at his school).<br>
<br>
The meeting should be on IRC (<a href="http://freenode.net" \
target="_blank">freenode.net</a>). Most of us hang out there anyway<br> (#kde-edu is \
the channel though we can create a new channel for the meeting to<br> avoid being \
disturbed).<br></blockquote><div>+1<br>  <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); \
padding-left: 1ex;"> <br>
I don&#39;t have much time in the near future due to traveling. How would the \
first<br> May weekend sound? I would propose Sat/Sun May 1st or 2nd.<br>
Time zone wise we need something to fit Europe and Brazil as far as I<br>
understand.<br></blockquote><div>I&#39;m not sure where I&#39;ll be that weekend, we \
can do it late-ish on sunday maybe? Brazil is -6 or so from europe, \
afaik.<br><br>Thanks!<br>Aleix<br>  </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); \
padding-left: 1ex;">

<br>
Greetings,<br>
<font color="#888888">Frederik<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On Tuesday 20 April 2010 02:11:26 Duda Nogueira wrote:<br>
&gt; I am At GMT-3<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; and you?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; do you have any jabber / gtalk?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href="mailto:dudanogueira@jabber-br.org">dudanogueira@jabber-br.org</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Duda Nogueira<br>
&gt; Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia<br>
&gt; <a href="http://www.dudanogueira.com.br" \
target="_blank">www.dudanogueira.com.br</a><br> &gt;<br>
&gt; Celular: +55 31 9985-1271<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Aleix Pol &lt;<a \
href="mailto:aleixpol@kde.org">aleixpol@kde.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt; &gt; On Tue, \
Apr 20, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Duda Nogueira &lt;<a \
href="mailto:dudanogueira@gmail.com">dudanogueira@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br> &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; I am also mostly available!<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Just point a date and time, and I&#39;ll be there!<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; :)<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Duda Nogueira<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.dudanogueira.com.br" \
target="_blank">www.dudanogueira.com.br</a><br> &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Celular: +55 31 9985-1271<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Aleix Pol &lt;<a \
href="mailto:aleixpol@kde.org">aleixpol@kde.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; \
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Duda Nogueira<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &lt;<a \
href="mailto:dudanogueira@gmail.com">dudanogueira@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; \
&gt;<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Anne,<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Amanda told me about Akademy 2010, and when I saw the main \
topics<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; (specially the &quot;Connecting Our World: Social \
Desktop&quot;), I thought<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; that this new KEduca ideas would \
fit perfectly on a paper to be<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; presented.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; So I sent this paper to: <a \
href="mailto:akademy-talks@kde.org">akademy-talks@kde.org</a><br> &gt; &gt;&gt; \
&gt;&gt;<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Name: José Eduardo Campos Nogueira, aka \
&quot;Duda Nogueira&quot;<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Talk Title: A Social and clouded new approach to KDE-Edu<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Abstract:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; As we go towards on the usage of open source in educational \
projects<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; with huge deployments, we need to not only \
provide good educational<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; softwares, but ways to deliver \
content among software. A new,<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; revamped KEduca looks like \
the perfect application to provide a<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; platform, that will \
accomplish this goal, together with a remote<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; \
portal/repository, where users/teachers can share or improve shared<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; \
&gt;&gt; classes.<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Time needed: 30 minutes talk<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; About me<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; When I first used open source software, it was most about \
servers.<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Soon, I got to use as my desktop. After this, I \
saw the possibility<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; to use it for educational purposes. I \
always liked the idea of<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; education + computers. \
Unfortunately, I couldn&#39;t always work<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; directly with \
open source, and web development took place for a few<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; \
years in my career. Right now I work where I always wanted: a small<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; \
&gt;&gt; yet innovative Linux Based company (Metasys Linux), aimed to deliver<br> \
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Educational Systems to government projects with about \
50.000<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; delivered desktops (netbooks and desktops), and \
about 200.000 to<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; deliver by the end of this year. All of \
them with KDE.<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; References<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; As an Open Source activist, I went to some nice events in \
Brazil:<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; FISL, Latinoware and other local events. The last \
event was<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Latinoware, Where I got to know Anne Marie, \
Sandro Andrade, Tomaz<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Canabrava, Adrian de Groot, KDHelio \
Castro and others, just to name a<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; few. After that, I \
decided to work closely with KDE-EDU crew.<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Duda Nogueira<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.dudanogueira.com.br" \
target="_blank">www.dudanogueira.com.br</a><br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Celular: +55 31 9985-1271<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &lt;<a \
href="mailto:annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr">annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr</a>&gt; wrote:<br> \
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Yes it would be great to have an IRC meeting on this so \
we could<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; refine<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; this<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; topic at the Edu meeting.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Aleix, any date? a doodle page?<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Best regards,<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Anne-Marie<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; On Saturday 17 April 2010 14:08:48 Duda Nogueira \
wrote:<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Hi Alex!<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; That&#39;s a great idea. Deliver content among the \
software is<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; definetly the way to Go!<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; However, I don&#39;t think that relying on a web \
content such as<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; portal do<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; professor is a good idea, not only for the non \
semantic content as<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; you<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; pointed, but mainly for the availability and \
stability of the<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; whole portal.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Instead of putting the content into the software, a \
better aproach<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; should be the opposite: put the \
software into the content.<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; That&#39;s why I think Keduca can be a key software \
to do this job,<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; integrating content with \
software.<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Picture the usage: Anne wants to teach her students \
about calcium/<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; milk. She will create a Keduca \
file, with richmedia (audio, video,<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; images, \
flash, weblinks) grabed from a Creative Commons source,<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; \
&gt;&gt; and can also link his Keduca class with a specific application,<br> &gt; \
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; even linking a specific word, such as &quot;calcium&quot; \
to a command,<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; like &quot;kalzium<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; calcium&quot;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Anne can also share her class, created on her \
language by clicking<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; on<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; a button &quot;share&quot;, and making it available \
on a central repository.<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Later, other teacher, named Marie ;) will be able to \
download the<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; shared Keduca class, improve it, use \
it, and share it back on the<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; central \
repository.<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; It can be either a crazy idea or a good vision...<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Just a quick correction: Syst, the company I work for \
is the same<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; as Metasys, but we prefer to be \
called as Metasy, for branding<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; matters<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; :)<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; What do you guys think about that? A \
meeting/brainstorm would be<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; great!!<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Enviado de meu iPhone<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Em 16/04/2010, Ã s 12:13, Aleix Pol &lt;<a \
href="mailto:aleixpol@kde.org">aleixpol@kde.org</a>&gt; escreveu:<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; \
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Duda Nogueira<br> &gt; \
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &lt;<a \
href="mailto:dudanogueira@gmail.com">dudanogueira@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt; \
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Hi there!<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; \
&gt;<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; As Mauricio said, we (Syst) have total \
interest in keeping a<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; close contact with KDE \
and KDE-EDU, helping on improvements not<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; \
only in KEduca app, but the whole Educational stack in open<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; \
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; source, whenever<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; \
possible.<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; It&#39;s important to note that our distro is \
being shipped in<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; thousands<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; of Intel Classmates. Here in Brazil we have more \
then 13.000<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; already<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; delivered, and more 150.000 to go, as the UCA \
(One Laptop per<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Child)<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Project from Brazil&#39;s government is being \
launched.<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; On the desktop side, we have about 4.000 \
thousand schools here<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; in our<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; state, Minas Gerais, with approximately 15 \
computers each, all<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; of them<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; with KDE on in it.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; There is also another dekstop project, from the \
Communication<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; area of<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; the government, that plans to deliver 20.000 \
labs, each one with<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; 15<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; computers. From this total, 5.000 was already \
delivered, and the<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; rest<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; will be delivered on the following months.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; With KEduca, we want to share/contribute with \
code, expertise<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; and help<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; on stimulating teachers and institutions to \
develop and share<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; new tests/KEduca \
files.<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; The Educational Area of our Government has an \
awesome portal<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; (<a \
href="http://portaldoprofessor.mec.gov.br/recursos.html" \
target="_blank">http://portaldoprofessor.mec.gov.br/recursos.html</a>) with tons \
of<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; contents (66G so far), and we think \
it&#39;ll be a good area to<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; share the<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; pt-br KEduca tests.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; I&#39;ll be looking closely for the KEduca-new \
development, as I<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; truly believe this will a \
win-win situation, and a very<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; interesting \
project!<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Best Regards!<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Duda Nogueira<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Gerente de Projetos em Tecnologia<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; <a href="http://www.dudanogueira.com.br" \
target="_blank">www.dudanogueira.com.br</a><br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; \
&gt;<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Celular: +55 31 9985-1271<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Anne-Marie \
Mahfouf<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &lt;<a \
href="mailto:annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr">annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr</a>&gt; wrote:<br> \
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; fabulous news and indeed making it possible \
to exchange data<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; is the<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; way to go!<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks a<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; \
_______________________________________________<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; \
&gt; kde-edu mailing list<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; <a \
href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br> &gt; &gt;&gt; \
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> &gt; &gt;&gt; \
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Hi!!<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; I&#39;m really happy to read such a mail. I \
think that such<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; communication between \
teachers and developers is definitely the<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; \
way<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; to go. If you are interested on working \
with us, we should<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; create some IRC meeting \
together (if it&#39;s not possible to meet<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; \
live) to think of some way we can do that.<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; \
&gt;<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; For starters, even if the website has \
an amazing amount of<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; information (I mean it, \
there&#39;s stuff in catalan, awesome :)) I<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; \
don&#39;t think there&#39;s much we can do with that because data is not<br> &gt; \
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; formatted in any semantic way but we should try to \
get to that.<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; A good start would be to make \
it possible to integrate some<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; information \
into kalzium, they already have wikipedia<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; \
information, why not information from &quot;portal do professor&quot;? To<br> &gt; \
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; do so we should make it possible to be able to \
structure the<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; data a little and to create \
some RPC interface I guess, do you<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; think \
that would be possible?<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; I think it would be great if we could provide \
kalgebra modules<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; and maybe cantor sheets for \
mathematical and science<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; information in \
general. I think this would be far better than<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; \
&gt; the current just-html<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; approach. This \
would bring up new needs in hosting applications<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; \
&gt; but<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; that&#39;s why we are here, \
isn&#39;t it?<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Well, looking forward to hearing from you. And \
remember that<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; we&#39;re here for good :D<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Aleix (KAlgebra maintainer)<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; \
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_______________________________________________<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; kde-edu \
mailing list<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; <a \
href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org">kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br> &gt; &gt;&gt; \
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&gt;<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Yes, the thing is that the kde edu team we&#39;re holding \
a meeting in the<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; end<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; of May and it would be great to start planning such stuff.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; I also sent a talk proposal for KDE Edu for this year&#39;s \
akademy, we&#39;ll<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; see<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; how it goes. So it would be nice to share some knowledge and<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; intentions before we get to Tampere :)<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; On the IRC meeting, I&#39;d let the brazilian people to choose \
some<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; timeframe<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; since I&#39;m mostly available. Who would be interested on joining \
as<br> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; well?<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Aleix<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<br>
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