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From: André_Wyzykowski <abvwmc () gmail ! com>
Date: 2010-01-06 21:32:50
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> 1. January IRC meeting (Lydia Pintscher)
> 2. Re: January IRC meeting (Tomaz Canabrava)
> 3. Re: January IRC meeting (Tomaz Canabrava)
> 4. survey results (Lydia Pintscher)
> 5. proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out. (Tomaz Canabrava)
> 6. Re: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out.
> (Carsten Niehaus)
> 7. Re: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out. (Matt Williams)
> 8. Parley - survey - work on data (Sabine Emmy Eller)
> 9. Re: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out. (Aleix Pol)
> 10. Re: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out.
> (Lydia Pintscher)
> 11. Multimedia Sprint 2010 - final dates and further organization
> (Myriam Schweingruber)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 15:56:39 +0100
> From: Lydia Pintscher <lydia@kde.org>
> Subject: [kde-edu]: January IRC meeting
> To: kde-edu@kde.org
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> Heya folks :)
>
> with the planning for the sprint being on its way we should probably
> have a meeting to discuss agenda and stuff. Steph was so kind to sort
> the survey results. I'll look into that next and distribute them.
> (Thanks a bunch, Steph!). That could also be a topic for meeting. Part
> of the survey answers need to be turned into junior jobs in bugzilla.
> Justin made a Marble video and we should come up with ideas for
> another promo video for him or someone else.
>
> http://www.doodle.com/4qkyqihyy6h6icph has the poll. It will be open
> until Sunday. Please pay attention to time zone.
>
>
> Cheers
> Lydia
>
> --
> Lydia Pintscher
> Amarok community manager
> kde.org - amarok.kde.org - kubuntu.org
> claimid.com/nightrose
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:59:59 -0200
> From: Tomaz Canabrava <tumaix@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: January IRC meeting
> To: kde-edu@kde.org
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> let's see if this time I can make it.
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Lydia Pintscher <lydia@kde.org> wrote:
> > Heya folks :)
> >
> > with the planning for the sprint being on its way we should probably
> > have a meeting to discuss agenda and stuff. Steph was so kind to sort
> > the survey results. I'll look into that next and distribute them.
> > (Thanks a bunch, Steph!). That could also be a topic for meeting. Part
> > of the survey answers need to be turned into junior jobs in bugzilla.
> > Justin made a Marble video and we should come up with ideas for
> > another promo video for him or someone else.
> >
> > http://www.doodle.com/4qkyqihyy6h6icph has the poll. It will be open
> > until Sunday. Please pay attention to time zone.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Lydia
> >
> > --
> > Lydia Pintscher
> > Amarok community manager
> > kde.org - amarok.kde.org - kubuntu.org
> > claimid.com/nightrose
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 13:06:54 -0200
> From: Tomaz Canabrava <tumaix@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: January IRC meeting
> To: kde-edu@kde.org
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> well, answered the pool, the only days I cant go are the sunday and
> saturday, unfortunately, I don't have web at home.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 16:59:44 +0100
> From: Lydia Pintscher <lydia@kde.org>
> Subject: [kde-edu]: survey results
> To: kde-edu@kde.org
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> Heya :)
>
> finally got around to checking the results after Steph was so kind to
> sort them by program.
> http://lydiapintscher.de/tmp/KDE-EduSurvey.ods is the resulting
> spreadsheet. There is something for everyone ;-)
>
> Let me know which of those could potentially be turned into junior
> jobs. (If you don't want to file them yourself I'll try to find
> someone but let me know either way.)
>
> If you want access to the raw results with answers to all questions
> ping me as well. I can give you access but for obvious reasons I can't
> share them with everyone and/or unknown people.
>
>
> Cheers and I hope those are useful for you
> Lydia
>
> --
> Lydia Pintscher
> Amarok community manager
> kde.org - amarok.kde.org - kubuntu.org
> claimid.com/nightrose
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:32:55 -0200
> From: Tomaz Canabrava <tumaix@gmail.com>
> Subject: [kde-edu]: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out.
> To: kde-edu <kde-edu@kde.org>
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> I'm planning to move rocs to gitorious when 4.4 is out, this will
> simplify a few things for me. I wonder if the whole kde-edu can be
> moved there without much hassle, we already have some big apps on
> gitorious like amarok, gluon and of course, qt itself.
>
> I didn't see much talk about gitting kde on the -devel list, so I
> think it's a module decision at this time.
>
>
>
> --
> Um Computador sem Windows ? como um Navio sem dan?arinas de Can-Can
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:44:53 +0100
> From: Carsten Niehaus <cniehaus@gmx.de>
> Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out.
> To: kde-edu@kde.org
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> Am 06.01.2010 17:32, schrieb Tomaz Canabrava:
> > I'm planning to move rocs to gitorious when 4.4 is out, this will
> > simplify a few things for me. I wonder if the whole kde-edu can be
> > moved there without much hassle, we already have some big apps on
> > gitorious like amarok, gluon and of course, qt itself.
> >
> > I didn't see much talk about gitting kde on the -devel list, so I
> > think it's a module decision at this time.
> >
> >
> >
> There is a mailinglist dedicated to git:
>
> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-scm-interest
>
> (Almost) all discussion happens there.
>
> About your question: I would be in favour of it.
>
> Carsten
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 16:46:22 +0000
> From: Matt Williams <lists@milliams.com>
> Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out.
> To: kde-edu@kde.org
> Message-ID:
> <81dbcf381001060846k8ca90b6od833287317394511@mail.gmail.com>
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> 2010/1/6 Tomaz Canabrava <tumaix@gmail.com>:
> > I'm planning to move rocs to gitorious when 4.4 is out, this will
> > simplify a few things for me. I wonder if the whole kde-edu can be
> > moved there without much hassle, we already have some big apps on
> > gitorious like amarok, gluon and of course, qt itself.
> >
> > I didn't see much talk about gitting kde on the -devel list, so I
> > think it's a module decision at this time.
>
> There is much discussion of this going on at kde-scm-interest@kde.org
> and #kde-git at the moment. There are still some problems to resolve
> before any applications move to Gitorious. Amarok and Konversation are
> simply there as test subjects. The biggest issue for us is whether all
> the applications in kde-edu reside in one Git repository or whether
> they are each in their own and are aggregated somewhere externally.
>
> I'd suggest you join the discussions and meetings and offer your help
> wherever you can.
>
> --
> Matt Williams
> http://milliams.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:49:57 +0100
> From: Sabine Emmy Eller <s.eller@voxhumanitatis.org>
> Subject: [kde-edu]: Parley - survey - work on data
> To: kde-edu <kde-edu@kde.org>
> Message-ID:
> <c6f051861001060949g41d92ebbuabc4e2101365871e@mail.gmail.com>
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>
> I had a look at the survey. One thing I would really like to see happen
> (and
> I hope we can get these contacts on the way) is that people start to work
> on
> the long lists we have in a particular way:
>
> There are many language courses around. Each course could benefit from the
> lists that are there instead of starting "from scratch". The easiest way
> would be to add a column for a specific "group of lessons" where we then
> have a person who says "dog = lesson 1, cat = lesson 1, building = lesson
> 2,
> skyescraper = lesson 2, tomato = lesson 3, to cook = lesson 3" etc. -
> missing terms get added. By doing things this way the data gets better and
> better and it becomes ever less work to create lessons.
>
> Of course we can create all sorts of different lessons, but none of them
> will 100% reflect the users needs. What is planned nevertheless is the
> translation of a basic set of sentences and the words used for these
> sentences can become of course "one set of data".
>
> Files should become much smaller in future. Right how what we have is to
> let
> people know: much is already there and one can save a lot of time by taking
> what is there and working on it. There's also another reason: I have to
> make
> data quantity to work on for volunteers in "digestible bits and pieces" and
> there I still have one of those question marks to solve.
>
> Sabine
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:55:32 +0100
> From: Aleix Pol <aleixpol@kde.org>
> Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out.
> To: kde-edu@kde.org
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> Are you sure this is a good idea?
> This would be the first app inside KDE (not in extragear) to be in
> gitorious. That would mean it wouldn't be together with the rest of the
> module... :/
>
> Note that i'm not talking about technical advantages of git over svn, but I
> think kdeedu should move all at once.
>
> Aleix
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Matt Williams <lists@milliams.com> wrote:
>
> > 2010/1/6 Tomaz Canabrava <tumaix@gmail.com>:
> > > I'm planning to move rocs to gitorious when 4.4 is out, this will
> > > simplify a few things for me. I wonder if the whole kde-edu can be
> > > moved there without much hassle, we already have some big apps on
> > > gitorious like amarok, gluon and of course, qt itself.
> > >
> > > I didn't see much talk about gitting kde on the -devel list, so I
> > > think it's a module decision at this time.
> >
> > There is much discussion of this going on at kde-scm-interest@kde.org
> > and #kde-git at the moment. There are still some problems to resolve
> > before any applications move to Gitorious. Amarok and Konversation are
> > simply there as test subjects. The biggest issue for us is whether all
> > the applications in kde-edu reside in one Git repository or whether
> > they are each in their own and are aggregated somewhere externally.
> >
> > I'd suggest you join the discussions and meetings and offer your help
> > wherever you can.
> >
> > --
> > Matt Williams
> > http://milliams.com
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 19:16:13 +0100
> From: Lydia Pintscher <lydia@kde.org>
> Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out.
> To: kde-edu@kde.org
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> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 18:55, Aleix Pol <aleixpol@kde.org> wrote:
> > Are you sure this is a good idea?
> > This would be the first app inside KDE (not in extragear) to be in
> > gitorious. That would mean it wouldn't be together with the rest of the
> > module... :/
>
> Nope it's not really a good idea. You'll get a lot of fire for wanting
> to do it before all of KDE SC and there will be people blocking this
> if necessary.
> However the remaining tasks need people to do them. So the more of you
> help with writing rulesets for the conversion for example the faster
> this will get finished. If you want to help join the mailinglist or
> #kde-git. There is a meeting in #kde-git in about 1 hour and 30 mins
> from now. Join it! :)
>
>
> Cheers
> Lydia
>
> --
> Lydia Pintscher
> Amarok community manager
> kde.org - amarok.kde.org - kubuntu.org
> claimid.com/nightrose
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:05:35 +0100
> From: Myriam Schweingruber <myriam@kde.org>
> Subject: [kde-edu]: Multimedia Sprint 2010 - final dates and further
> organization
> To: KDE events <kde-events@kde.org>, Amarok Developers
> <amarok-devel@kde.org>, KDE Mac <kde-mac@kde.org>, KDE Windows
> <kde-windows@kde.org>, Amarok Promo <amarok-promo@kde.org>, KDE
> Promo
> <kde-promo@kde.org>, KDE Multimedia <kde-multimedia@kde.org>,
> Phonon
> Backends ML <phonon-backends@kde.org>, Knut Yrvin
> <knut.yrvin@nokia.com>, KDE Usability <
> kde-usability@kde.org>, KDE
> Edu <kde-edu@kde.org>, KDE Games <kde-games@kde.org>
> Cc: Claudia Rauch <rauch@kde.org>
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>
> Hi all,
>
> Since we have a clear preference for the second week in May, we booked
> the house from
>
> 20. - 25. May 2010
>
> I edited the Doodle accordingly:
>
> http://www.doodle.com/7dahwb5ssndrwaxz
>
> You will find more organisational information in this wiki page:
>
> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Community/SprintMay2010 [1]
>
> Please all, fill in your details in the Attendees list of the above
> wiki page ASAP.
>
> If any of you want to give a helping hand with organising, please get
> in touch with me <myriam@kde.org>, Mark <kretschmann@kde.org> or Mario
> <fux.mario@unormal.org>.
>
> Looking forward to meet you all in Randa!
>
>
> Regards, Myriam.
>
>
> [1] Since there was no clear location on the techbase.kde.org wiki, I
> chose to put it in the Amarok wiki. An alternative could be the
> /Events section, what do you think? It would be really easy to move
> since both use Mediawiki, I just need more input on this.
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Today's Topics:<br>
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1. January IRC meeting (Lydia Pintscher)<br>
2. Re: January IRC meeting (Tomaz Canabrava)<br>
3. Re: January IRC meeting (Tomaz Canabrava)<br>
4. survey results (Lydia Pintscher)<br>
5. proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out. (Tomaz Canabrava)<br>
6. Re: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out.<br>
(Carsten Niehaus)<br>
7. Re: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out. (Matt Williams)<br>
8. Parley - survey - work on data (Sabine Emmy Eller)<br>
9. Re: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out. (Aleix Pol)<br>
10. Re: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out.<br>
(Lydia Pintscher)<br>
11. Multimedia Sprint 2010 - final dates and further organization<br>
(Myriam Schweingruber)<br>
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 15:56:39 +0100<br>
From: Lydia Pintscher <<a href="mailto:lydia@kde.org">lydia@kde.org</a>><br>
Subject: [kde-edu]: January IRC meeting<br>
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Heya folks :)<br>
<br>
with the planning for the sprint being on its way we should probably<br>
have a meeting to discuss agenda and stuff. Steph was so kind to sort<br>
the survey results. I'll look into that next and distribute them.<br>
(Thanks a bunch, Steph!). That could also be a topic for meeting. Part<br>
of the survey answers need to be turned into junior jobs in bugzilla.<br>
Justin made a Marble video and we should come up with ideas for<br>
another promo video for him or someone else.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.doodle.com/4qkyqihyy6h6icph" \
target="_blank">http://www.doodle.com/4qkyqihyy6h6icph</a> has the poll. It will be \
open<br> until Sunday. Please pay attention to time zone.<br>
<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
Lydia<br>
<br>
--<br>
Lydia Pintscher<br>
Amarok community manager<br>
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:59:59 -0200<br>
From: Tomaz Canabrava <<a \
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Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: January IRC meeting<br>
To: <a href="mailto:kde-edu@kde.org">kde-edu@kde.org</a><br>
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let's see if this time I can make it.<br>
<br>
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Lydia Pintscher <<a \
href="mailto:lydia@kde.org">lydia@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br> > Heya folks :)<br>
><br>
> with the planning for the sprint being on its way we should probably<br>
> have a meeting to discuss agenda and stuff. Steph was so kind to sort<br>
> the survey results. I'll look into that next and distribute them.<br>
> (Thanks a bunch, Steph!). That could also be a topic for meeting. Part<br>
> of the survey answers need to be turned into junior jobs in bugzilla.<br>
> Justin made a Marble video and we should come up with ideas for<br>
> another promo video for him or someone else.<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.doodle.com/4qkyqihyy6h6icph" \
target="_blank">http://www.doodle.com/4qkyqihyy6h6icph</a> has the poll. It will be \
open<br> > until Sunday. Please pay attention to time zone.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Cheers<br>
> Lydia<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Lydia Pintscher<br>
> Amarok community manager<br>
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target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br> ><br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 13:06:54 -0200<br>
From: Tomaz Canabrava <<a \
href="mailto:tumaix@gmail.com">tumaix@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: January IRC meeting<br>
To: <a href="mailto:kde-edu@kde.org">kde-edu@kde.org</a><br>
Message-ID:<br>
<<a href="mailto:7ebbb4b51001060706w4db6332fx6013d62f27ee13fc@mail.gmail.com">7ebbb4b51001060706w4db6332fx6013d62f27ee13fc@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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well, answered the pool, the only days I cant go are the sunday and<br>
saturday, unfortunately, I don't have web at home.<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 16:59:44 +0100<br>
From: Lydia Pintscher <<a href="mailto:lydia@kde.org">lydia@kde.org</a>><br>
Subject: [kde-edu]: survey results<br>
To: <a href="mailto:kde-edu@kde.org">kde-edu@kde.org</a><br>
Message-ID:<br>
<<a href="mailto:938b46781001060759n2287fdbfi1bdcdf4ae8bed74a@mail.gmail.com">938b46781001060759n2287fdbfi1bdcdf4ae8bed74a@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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Heya :)<br>
<br>
finally got around to checking the results after Steph was so kind to<br>
sort them by program.<br>
<a href="http://lydiapintscher.de/tmp/KDE-EduSurvey.ods" \
target="_blank">http://lydiapintscher.de/tmp/KDE-EduSurvey.ods</a> is the \
resulting<br> spreadsheet. There is something for everyone ;-)<br>
<br>
Let me know which of those could potentially be turned into junior<br>
jobs. (If you don't want to file them yourself I'll try to find<br>
someone but let me know either way.)<br>
<br>
If you want access to the raw results with answers to all questions<br>
ping me as well. I can give you access but for obvious reasons I can't<br>
share them with everyone and/or unknown people.<br>
<br>
<br>
Cheers and I hope those are useful for you<br>
Lydia<br>
<br>
--<br>
Lydia Pintscher<br>
Amarok community manager<br>
<a href="http://kde.org" target="_blank">kde.org</a> - <a \
href="http://amarok.kde.org" target="_blank">amarok.kde.org</a> - <a \
href="http://kubuntu.org" target="_blank">kubuntu.org</a><br> <a \
href="http://claimid.com/nightrose" target="_blank">claimid.com/nightrose</a><br> \
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:32:55 -0200<br>
From: Tomaz Canabrava <<a \
href="mailto:tumaix@gmail.com">tumaix@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: [kde-edu]: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out.<br>
To: kde-edu <<a href="mailto:kde-edu@kde.org">kde-edu@kde.org</a>><br>
Message-ID:<br>
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I'm planning to move rocs to gitorious when 4.4 is out, this will<br>
simplify a few things for me. I wonder if the whole kde-edu can be<br>
moved there without much hassle, we already have some big apps on<br>
gitorious like amarok, gluon and of course, qt itself.<br>
<br>
I didn't see much talk about gitting kde on the -devel list, so I<br>
think it's a module decision at this time.<br>
<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:44:53 +0100<br>
From: Carsten Niehaus <<a \
href="mailto:cniehaus@gmx.de">cniehaus@gmx.de</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out.<br>
To: <a href="mailto:kde-edu@kde.org">kde-edu@kde.org</a><br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4B44BE05.1060207@gmx.de">4B44BE05.1060207@gmx.de</a>><br>
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Am 06.01.2010 17:32, schrieb Tomaz Canabrava:<br>
> I'm planning to move rocs to gitorious when 4.4 is out, this will<br>
> simplify a few things for me. I wonder if the whole kde-edu can be<br>
> moved there without much hassle, we already have some big apps on<br>
> gitorious like amarok, gluon and of course, qt itself.<br>
><br>
> I didn't see much talk about gitting kde on the -devel list, so I<br>
> think it's a module decision at this time.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
There is a mailinglist dedicated to git:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-scm-interest" \
target="_blank">http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-scm-interest</a><br> <br>
(Almost) all discussion happens there.<br>
<br>
About your question: I would be in favour of it.<br>
<br>
Carsten<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 16:46:22 +0000<br>
From: Matt Williams <<a \
href="mailto:lists@milliams.com">lists@milliams.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out.<br>
To: <a href="mailto:kde-edu@kde.org">kde-edu@kde.org</a><br>
Message-ID:<br>
<<a href="mailto:81dbcf381001060846k8ca90b6od833287317394511@mail.gmail.com">81dbcf381001060846k8ca90b6od833287317394511@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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2010/1/6 Tomaz Canabrava <<a \
href="mailto:tumaix@gmail.com">tumaix@gmail.com</a>>:<br> > I'm planning to \
move rocs to gitorious when 4.4 is out, this will<br> > simplify a few things for \
me. I wonder if the whole kde-edu can be<br> > moved there without much hassle, we \
already have some big apps on<br> > gitorious like amarok, gluon and of course, qt \
itself.<br> ><br>
> I didn't see much talk about gitting kde on the -devel list, so I<br>
> think it's a module decision at this time.<br>
<br>
There is much discussion of this going on at <a \
href="mailto:kde-scm-interest@kde.org">kde-scm-interest@kde.org</a><br> and #kde-git \
at the moment. There are still some problems to resolve<br> before any applications \
move to Gitorious. Amarok and Konversation are<br> simply there as test subjects. The \
biggest issue for us is whether all<br> the applications in kde-edu reside in one Git \
repository or whether<br> they are each in their own and are aggregated somewhere \
externally.<br> <br>
I'd suggest you join the discussions and meetings and offer your help<br>
wherever you can.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Matt Williams<br>
<a href="http://milliams.com" target="_blank">http://milliams.com</a><br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:49:57 +0100<br>
From: Sabine Emmy Eller <<a \
href="mailto:s.eller@voxhumanitatis.org">s.eller@voxhumanitatis.org</a>><br>
Subject: [kde-edu]: Parley - survey - work on data<br>
To: kde-edu <<a href="mailto:kde-edu@kde.org">kde-edu@kde.org</a>><br>
Message-ID:<br>
<<a href="mailto:c6f051861001060949g41d92ebbuabc4e2101365871e@mail.gmail.com">c6f051861001060949g41d92ebbuabc4e2101365871e@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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I had a look at the survey. One thing I would really like to see happen (and<br>
I hope we can get these contacts on the way) is that people start to work on<br>
the long lists we have in a particular way:<br>
<br>
There are many language courses around. Each course could benefit from the<br>
lists that are there instead of starting "from scratch". The easiest \
way<br> would be to add a column for a specific "group of lessons" where we \
then<br> have a person who says "dog = lesson 1, cat = lesson 1, building = \
lesson 2,<br> skyescraper = lesson 2, tomato = lesson 3, to cook = lesson 3" \
etc. -<br> missing terms get added. By doing things this way the data gets better \
and<br> better and it becomes ever less work to create lessons.<br>
<br>
Of course we can create all sorts of different lessons, but none of them<br>
will 100% reflect the users needs. What is planned nevertheless is the<br>
translation of a basic set of sentences and the words used for these<br>
sentences can become of course "one set of data".<br>
<br>
Files should become much smaller in future. Right how what we have is to let<br>
people know: much is already there and one can save a lot of time by taking<br>
what is there and working on it. There's also another reason: I have to make<br>
data quantity to work on for volunteers in "digestible bits and pieces" \
and<br> there I still have one of those question marks to solve.<br>
<br>
Sabine<br>
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Message: 9<br>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:55:32 +0100<br>
From: Aleix Pol <<a href="mailto:aleixpol@kde.org">aleixpol@kde.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out.<br>
To: <a href="mailto:kde-edu@kde.org">kde-edu@kde.org</a><br>
Message-ID:<br>
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Are you sure this is a good idea?<br>
This would be the first app inside KDE (not in extragear) to be in<br>
gitorious. That would mean it wouldn't be together with the rest of the<br>
module... :/<br>
<br>
Note that i'm not talking about technical advantages of git over svn, but I<br>
think kdeedu should move all at once.<br>
<br>
Aleix<br>
<br>
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Matt Williams <<a \
href="mailto:lists@milliams.com">lists@milliams.com</a>> wrote:<br> <br>
> 2010/1/6 Tomaz Canabrava <<a \
href="mailto:tumaix@gmail.com">tumaix@gmail.com</a>>:<br> > > I'm \
planning to move rocs to gitorious when 4.4 is out, this will<br> > > simplify \
a few things for me. I wonder if the whole kde-edu can be<br> > > moved there \
without much hassle, we already have some big apps on<br> > > gitorious like \
amarok, gluon and of course, qt itself.<br> > ><br>
> > I didn't see much talk about gitting kde on the -devel list, so I<br>
> > think it's a module decision at this time.<br>
><br>
> There is much discussion of this going on at <a \
href="mailto:kde-scm-interest@kde.org">kde-scm-interest@kde.org</a><br> > and \
#kde-git at the moment. There are still some problems to resolve<br> > before any \
applications move to Gitorious. Amarok and Konversation are<br> > simply there as \
test subjects. The biggest issue for us is whether all<br> > the applications in \
kde-edu reside in one Git repository or whether<br> > they are each in their own \
and are aggregated somewhere externally.<br> ><br>
> I'd suggest you join the discussions and meetings and offer your help<br>
> wherever you can.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Matt Williams<br>
> <a href="http://milliams.com" target="_blank">http://milliams.com</a><br>
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Message: 10<br>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 19:16:13 +0100<br>
From: Lydia Pintscher <<a href="mailto:lydia@kde.org">lydia@kde.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: proposal - move to git as soon as 4.4 is out.<br>
To: <a href="mailto:kde-edu@kde.org">kde-edu@kde.org</a><br>
Message-ID:<br>
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On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 18:55, Aleix Pol <<a \
href="mailto:aleixpol@kde.org">aleixpol@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br> > Are you sure \
this is a good idea?<br> > This would be the first app inside KDE (not in \
extragear) to be in<br> > gitorious. That would mean it wouldn't be together \
with the rest of the<br> > module... :/<br>
<br>
Nope it's not really a good idea. You'll get a lot of fire for wanting<br>
to do it before all of KDE SC and there will be people blocking this<br>
if necessary.<br>
However the remaining tasks need people to do them. So the more of you<br>
help with writing rulesets for the conversion for example the faster<br>
this will get finished. If you want to help join the mailinglist or<br>
#kde-git. There is a meeting in #kde-git in about 1 hour and 30 mins<br>
from now. Join it! :)<br>
<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
Lydia<br>
<br>
--<br>
Lydia Pintscher<br>
Amarok community manager<br>
<a href="http://kde.org" target="_blank">kde.org</a> - <a \
href="http://amarok.kde.org" target="_blank">amarok.kde.org</a> - <a \
href="http://kubuntu.org" target="_blank">kubuntu.org</a><br> <a \
href="http://claimid.com/nightrose" target="_blank">claimid.com/nightrose</a><br> \
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Message: 11<br>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:05:35 +0100<br>
From: Myriam Schweingruber <<a \
href="mailto:myriam@kde.org">myriam@kde.org</a>><br>
Subject: [kde-edu]: Multimedia Sprint 2010 - final dates and further<br>
organization<br>
To: KDE events <<a href="mailto:kde-events@kde.org">kde-events@kde.org</a>>, \
Amarok Developers<br> <<a \
href="mailto:amarok-devel@kde.org">amarok-devel@kde.org</a>>, KDE Mac <<a \
href="mailto:kde-mac@kde.org">kde-mac@kde.org</a>>, KDE Windows<br> <<a \
href="mailto:kde-windows@kde.org">kde-windows@kde.org</a>>, Amarok Promo <<a \
href="mailto:amarok-promo@kde.org">amarok-promo@kde.org</a>>, KDE Promo<br> \
<<a href="mailto:kde-promo@kde.org">kde-promo@kde.org</a>>, KDE Multimedia \
<<a href="mailto:kde-multimedia@kde.org">kde-multimedia@kde.org</a>>, \
Phonon<br>
Backends ML <<a \
href="mailto:phonon-backends@kde.org">phonon-backends@kde.org</a>>, Knut \
Yrvin<br> <<a href="mailto:knut.yrvin@nokia.com">knut.yrvin@nokia.com</a>>, \
KDE Usability <<a \
href="mailto:kde-usability@kde.org">kde-usability@kde.org</a>>, \
KDE<br>
Edu <<a href="mailto:kde-edu@kde.org">kde-edu@kde.org</a>>, KDE Games \
<<a href="mailto:kde-games@kde.org">kde-games@kde.org</a>><br>
Cc: Claudia Rauch <<a href="mailto:rauch@kde.org">rauch@kde.org</a>><br>
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Hi all,<br>
<br>
Since we have a clear preference for the second week in May, we booked<br>
the house from<br>
<br>
20. - 25. May 2010<br>
<br>
I edited the Doodle accordingly:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.doodle.com/7dahwb5ssndrwaxz" \
target="_blank">http://www.doodle.com/7dahwb5ssndrwaxz</a><br> <br>
You will find more organisational information in this wiki page:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Community/SprintMay2010" \
target="_blank">http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Community/SprintMay2010</a> [1]<br> <br>
Please all, fill in your details in the Attendees list of the above<br>
wiki page ASAP.<br>
<br>
If any of you want to give a helping hand with organising, please get<br>
in touch with me <<a href="mailto:myriam@kde.org">myriam@kde.org</a>>, Mark \
<<a href="mailto:kretschmann@kde.org">kretschmann@kde.org</a>> or Mario<br> \
<<a href="mailto:fux.mario@unormal.org">fux.mario@unormal.org</a>>.<br> <br>
Looking forward to meet you all in Randa!<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards, Myriam.<br>
<br>
<br>
[1] Since there was no clear location on the <a href="http://techbase.kde.org" \
target="_blank">techbase.kde.org</a> wiki, I<br> chose to put it in the Amarok wiki. \
An alternative could be the<br> /Events section, what do you think? It would be \
really easy to move<br> since both use Mediawiki, I just need more input on this.<br>
--<br>
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