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Subject:    Re: [kde-edu]: KEPA: kde4 Edu Portable Apps (for Windows)?
From:       Ben Crawford <crawford_ben () yahoo ! ca>
Date:       2007-11-23 20:05:02
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: RalfGesellensetter <rgx@gmx.de>
> To: kde-edu@kde.org
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 4:44:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: KEPA: kde4 Edu Portable Apps (for Windows)?
> 
> Am Mittwoch 21 November 2007 schrieb Saro Engels:
> > As I have said before the main problems are the lack of developers
> > and the lack of quality / stability. If you find someone though who
> > is keen on testing and improving the Windows ports, just send him to
> > us.
> 
> Hi Saro, thanks for your valuable reply!
> 
> I know dozens of pupils who are ready to try out free software - if I 
> just had a link where to get those apps?
> 
> Is there any need to release a separate "standallone/portable" version 
> for KDE Edu apps - to make them runnable right from a USB stick 
> (without the need of pre-installation)?
> 
> As for "branding" (this is more or less what I was thinking of) there 
> should be no string freeze (the info box containing the name of the 
> developer etc. should be changable independently). However, re-branding
 
> is possible for windows off-spins, so it might be wiser to refer to 
> GNU/Linux/KDE on the project's web page.
> 
> Regards
> Ralf
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I can see plenty of great opportunities for standalone/portable apps.  Two situations come \
straight from my experiences at the school I teach at.

Situation 1:
My situation is a teacher.  I have been experimenting with a lot of software (specifically \
KDE-Edu apps) as a teacher, but at our school we are running a Windows network and our \
technician is overworked enough and is not the least bit interested in the thought of \
installing/supporting/fixing/patching/updating/etc. pre-release software.  I have at least 2 \
classes that I could be testing with (50 young and eager testers!!) but no real feasible way of \
actually doing this.  (Note that we are both Linux enthusiasts and I've been making a push for \
some Linux at the school but this is met with a lot of resistance)

Situation 2:
I've done a small amount of testing (in terms of viable software - current stable Kde-Edu only) \
using live boot Linux cds with a small class - this avoided the support issues in the above \
situation.  The students were very interested in using some of the software at home.  However, \
at my school things are a bit behind the times and not all students have access to reliable \
internet.  If it were possible to upload standalone/portable apps to a usb stick for them then \
they could test, report back to me, and I could pass on their findings. (Some people are very \
reluctant to try live boot cds even after reassurances that they will not do a thing to their \
computers)

I'm sure there are other similar and different situations, I've just mentioned the 2 that I \
have experience with.

I appreciate all of the hard work that the kde-edu people put in on all fronts.  A job very \
well done!!

Cheers,
Ben






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RalfGesellensetter &lt;rgx@gmx.de&gt;<br>&gt;To: kde-edu@kde.org<br>&gt;Sent: Friday, November \
23, 2007 4:44:27 AM<br>&gt;Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: KEPA: kde4 Edu Portable Apps (for \
Windows)?<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Am Mittwoch 21 November 2007 schrieb Saro Engels:<br>&gt;&gt; As I \
have said before the main problems are the lack of developers<br>&gt;&gt; and the lack of \
quality / stability. If you find someone though who<br>&gt;&gt; is keen on testing and \
improving the Windows ports, just send him to<br>&gt;&gt; us.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Hi Saro, thanks \
for your valuable reply!<br>&gt;<br>&gt;I know dozens of pupils who are  ready to try out free \
software - if I <br>&gt;just had a link where to get those apps?<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Is there any \
need to release a separate "standallone/portable" version <br>&gt;for KDE Edu apps - to make \
them runnable right from a USB stick <br>&gt;(without the need of \
pre-installation)?<br>&gt;<br>&gt;As for "branding" (this is more or less what I was thinking \
of) there <br>&gt;should be no string freeze (the info box containing the name of the \
<br>&gt;developer etc. should be changable independently). However, re-branding  <br>&gt;is \
possible for windows off-spins, so it might be wiser to refer to <br>&gt;GNU/Linux/KDE on the \
project's web page.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Regards<br>&gt;Ralf<br>&gt;_______________________________________________<br>&gt;kde-edu \
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href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">&gt;https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br></div><br><br>I can \
see plenty of great opportunities for standalone/portable apps.&nbsp; Two situations come \
straight from my experiences at the school I teach at.<br><br>Situation 1:<br>My situation is a \
teacher.&nbsp; I have been experimenting with a lot of software (specifically KDE-Edu apps) as \
a teacher, but at our school we are running a Windows network and our technician is overworked \
enough and is not the least bit interested in the thought of  \
installing/supporting/fixing/patching/updating/etc. pre-release software.&nbsp; I have at least \
2 classes that I could be testing with (50 young and eager testers!!) but no real feasible way \
of actually doing this.&nbsp; (Note that we are both Linux enthusiasts and I've been making a \
push for some Linux at the school but this is met with a lot of resistance)<br><br>Situation \
2:<br>I've done a small amount of testing (in terms of viable software - current stable Kde-Edu \
only) using live boot Linux cds with a small class - this avoided the support issues in the \
above situation.&nbsp; The students were very interested in using some of the software at \
home.&nbsp; However, at my school things are a bit behind the times and not all students have \
access to reliable internet.&nbsp; If it were possible to upload standalone/portable apps to a \
usb stick for them then they could test, report back to me, and I could pass on their findings. \
(Some people are very  reluctant to try live boot cds even after reassurances that they will \
not do a thing to their computers)<br><br>I'm sure there are other similar and different \
situations, I've just mentioned the 2 that I have experience with.<br><br>I appreciate all of \
the hard work that the kde-edu people put in on all fronts.&nbsp; A job very well \
                done!!<br><br>Cheers,<br>Ben<br><br><br></div></div><br>
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