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Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: KEPA: kde4 Edu Portable Apps (for Windows)?
From: Ben Crawford <crawford_ben () yahoo ! ca>
Date: 2007-11-23 20:05:02
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: RalfGesellensetter <rgx@gmx.de>
> To: kde-edu@kde.org
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 4:44:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: KEPA: kde4 Edu Portable Apps (for Windows)?
>
> Am Mittwoch 21 November 2007 schrieb Saro Engels:
> > As I have said before the main problems are the lack of developers
> > and the lack of quality / stability. If you find someone though who
> > is keen on testing and improving the Windows ports, just send him to
> > us.
>
> Hi Saro, thanks for your valuable reply!
>
> I know dozens of pupils who are ready to try out free software - if I
> just had a link where to get those apps?
>
> Is there any need to release a separate "standallone/portable" version
> for KDE Edu apps - to make them runnable right from a USB stick
> (without the need of pre-installation)?
>
> As for "branding" (this is more or less what I was thinking of) there
> should be no string freeze (the info box containing the name of the
> developer etc. should be changable independently). However, re-branding
> is possible for windows off-spins, so it might be wiser to refer to
> GNU/Linux/KDE on the project's web page.
>
> Regards
> Ralf
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I can see plenty of great opportunities for standalone/portable apps. Two situations \
come straight from my experiences at the school I teach at.
Situation 1:
My situation is a teacher. I have been experimenting with a lot of software \
(specifically KDE-Edu apps) as a teacher, but at our school we are running a Windows \
network and our technician is overworked enough and is not the least bit interested \
in the thought of installing/supporting/fixing/patching/updating/etc. pre-release \
software. I have at least 2 classes that I could be testing with (50 young and eager \
testers!!) but no real feasible way of actually doing this. (Note that we are both \
Linux enthusiasts and I've been making a push for some Linux at the school but this \
is met with a lot of resistance)
Situation 2:
I've done a small amount of testing (in terms of viable software - current stable \
Kde-Edu only) using live boot Linux cds with a small class - this avoided the support \
issues in the above situation. The students were very interested in using some of \
the software at home. However, at my school things are a bit behind the times and \
not all students have access to reliable internet. If it were possible to upload \
standalone/portable apps to a usb stick for them then they could test, report back to \
me, and I could pass on their findings. (Some people are very reluctant to try live \
boot cds even after reassurances that they will not do a thing to their computers)
I'm sure there are other similar and different situations, I've just mentioned the 2 \
that I have experience with.
I appreciate all of the hard work that the kde-edu people put in on all fronts. A \
job very well done!!
Cheers,
Ben
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Original Message ----<br>>From: RalfGesellensetter <rgx@gmx.de><br>>To: \
kde-edu@kde.org<br>>Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 4:44:27 AM<br>>Subject: Re: \
[kde-edu]: KEPA: kde4 Edu Portable Apps (for Windows)?<br>><br>>Am Mittwoch 21 \
November 2007 schrieb Saro Engels:<br>>> As I have said before the main \
problems are the lack of developers<br>>> and the lack of quality / stability. \
If you find someone though who<br>>> is keen on testing and improving the \
Windows ports, just send him to<br>>> us.<br>><br>>Hi Saro, thanks for \
your valuable reply!<br>><br>>I know dozens of pupils who are ready to try out \
free software - if I <br>>just had a link where to get those \
apps?<br>><br>>Is there any need to release a separate "standallone/portable" \
version <br>>for KDE Edu apps - to make them runnable right from a USB stick \
<br>>(without the need of pre-installation)?<br>><br>>As for "branding" \
(this is more or less what I was thinking of) there <br>>should be no string \
freeze (the info box containing the name of the <br>>developer etc. should be \
changable independently). However, re-branding <br>>is possible for windows \
off-spins, so it might be wiser to refer to <br>>GNU/Linux/KDE on the project's \
web page.<br>><br>>Regards<br>>Ralf<br>>_______________________________________________<br>>kde-edu \
mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org" \
href="mailto:kde-edu@mail.kde.org">>kde-edu@mail.kde.org</a><br><a \
href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu" \
target="_blank">>https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu</a><br></div><br><br>I \
can see plenty of great opportunities for standalone/portable apps. Two \
situations come straight from my experiences at the school I teach \
at.<br><br>Situation 1:<br>My situation is a teacher. I have been experimenting \
with a lot of software (specifically KDE-Edu apps) as a teacher, but at our school we \
are running a Windows network and our technician is overworked enough and is not the \
least bit interested in the thought of \
installing/supporting/fixing/patching/updating/etc. pre-release software. I \
have at least 2 classes that I could be testing with (50 young and eager testers!!) \
but no real feasible way of actually doing this. (Note that we are both Linux \
enthusiasts and I've been making a push for some Linux at the school but this is met \
with a lot of resistance)<br><br>Situation 2:<br>I've done a small amount of testing \
(in terms of viable software - current stable Kde-Edu only) using live boot Linux cds \
with a small class - this avoided the support issues in the above situation. \
The students were very interested in using some of the software at home. \
However, at my school things are a bit behind the times and not all students have \
access to reliable internet. If it were possible to upload standalone/portable \
apps to a usb stick for them then they could test, report back to me, and I could \
pass on their findings. (Some people are very reluctant to try live boot cds even \
after reassurances that they will not do a thing to their computers)<br><br>I'm sure \
there are other similar and different situations, I've just mentioned the 2 that I \
have experience with.<br><br>I appreciate all of the hard work that the kde-edu \
people put in on all fronts. A job very well \
done!!<br><br>Cheers,<br>Ben<br><br><br></div></div><br>
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