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Subject: Re: Aw: Re: LabPlot - Cannot print or export
From: Bill Gee <bgee () campercaver ! net>
Date: 2021-01-05 1:33:58
Message-ID: 3005062.D8ZAKjAxdT () main2 ! billgee ! local
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Hi Alexander -
I brought up a test machine under KVM to see if the flatpak would work. It sort of \
works, though as far as I can tell it will not save any file. It certainly does not \
save files to the directory I tell it to. I tried saving a project and printing a \
PDF with the target being /home/bgee/Documents ... but nothing ever appears there. \
Curiously, when I reprint to the same filename, it says that file already exists! \
Double curious - Exporting as a PNG does put the file where I expect it.
There is something weird going on. Are the files being saved inside a virtual \
environment? If so, how do I get to them from outside the virtual environment?
Flatpaks, snaps and containers all strike me as a very neat solution for which no \
problem exists. It took about 1 gigabyte of downloads to support a program that is \
less than 20 megabytes in size. It won't save files where I tell it to. The \
filename dialog boxes always pop up behind all other windows when they should be at \
the top of the Z-order. If I change themes, colors, icons, pointers, the changes are \
not used by the flatpak application.
So what is the advantage?
--
Bill Gee
On Monday, January 4, 2021 2:51:45 PM CST Alexander Semke wrote:
>
> Bill, would flatpack be an option for you?
>
> https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.kde.labplot2
>
>
> Gesendet: Montag, 04. Januar 2021 um 21:30 Uhr
> Von: "Bill Gee" <bgee@campercaver.net>
> An: kde-edu@kde.org, "Alexander Semke" <alexander.semke@web.de>
> Cc: kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> Betreff: Re: Aw: LabPlot - Cannot print or export
>
> Hi Alexander -
>
>
>
> Who'd a thunk it? Your suggestion of skipping the workbook and going straight to a \
> spreadsheet works! I can print and export plots, and the saved project will reload \
> with all my plots present. When the plots are inside a workbook, the print and \
> export options do nothing.
>
>
> Yeah, it would be nice to have the current version, but I don't see an easy way to \
> do it until some Fedora maintainer gets around to building a new package.
>
>
> Many thanks for your help.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Bill Gee
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 4, 2021 2:14:12 PM CST Alexander Semke wrote:
>
> > Hi Bill,
>
> >
>
> > we had a problem with restoring the connections to columns in spreadsheets that \
> > are part of a workbook. This bug is already fixed but I think it's still present \
> > in the version you're using. To workaround this problem now without upgrading to \
> > the most recent version (should be the preferred way, though) is to create a \
> > "stand-alone" spreadsheet. So, just create a new spreadsheet without the workbook \
> > and import your data.
>
> >
>
> > As to the export, this should work actually. If you select the plot and click on \
> > the export button in the toolbar, are you able to export to PDF and PNG or JPEG?
>
> >
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Alexander
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Gesendet: Montag, 04. Januar 2021 um 20:42 Uhr
>
> > Von: "Bill Gee" <bgee@campercaver.net>
>
> > An: kde-edu@mail.kde.org
>
> > Betreff: LabPlot - Cannot print or export
>
> >
>
> > Fedora 33, KDE/Plasma desktop, LabPlot version 2.7.0 from the Fedora repository
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I touch LabPlot once a year for a special need, so much of my knowledge \
> > evaporates over the year. It is time for me to get back to it.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I have a project with a workbook that links to a CSV file of values. I figured \
> > out how to create a basic plot. Now I have two problems:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > 1) When I save the project, the plots are NOT saved. Every time I open the \
> > project, I have to create the plots again. Who can I save plots?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > 2) Once the plots are created, I want to print them to PDF and export them to \
> > JPG. File-Print and File-Export do nothing. It is like clicking on /dev/null. \
> > There is no error, no windows pop up, nothing is printed ... How can I get these \
> > features to work? It is almost like LabPlot thinks there is nothing to print.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > If I select the worksheet, then File-Export does work. Of course, that's not \
> > what I want to export! When i select a plot, I get nothing.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Snaps are not an option. The version of LabPlot in the snap library is 2.6.0 \
> > which does not have some of the features I need. Flatpaks are not an option \
> > because the flatpak package requires Wayland, and I cannot run that. The nVidia \
> > display driver does not work with Wayland. And as a matter of sensibility, the \
> > flatpak wants to install something like 2 gigabytes of stuff. WTF?????
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I tried compiling 2.8.1 from source, but that throws hundreds of dependency \
> > errors. I have no idea what it is asking for.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > -- Could NOT find KF5Archive (missing: KF5Archive_DIR)
>
> > -- Could NOT find KF5Archive: found neither KF5ArchiveConfig.cmake nor \
> > kf5archive-config.cmake
>
> > -- Could NOT find KF5Completion (missing: KF5Completion_DIR)
>
> > -- Could NOT find KF5Completion: found neither KF5CompletionConfig.cmake nor \
> > kf5completion-config.cmake
>
> > I am open for suggestions.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Thanks!
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --
>
> >
>
> > Bill Gee
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
>
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<body><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;"><span \
style="font-size:0.92em;">Hi Alexander -</span></p> <br /><p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">I brought up a \
test machine under KVM to see if the flatpak would work. It sort of works, \
though as far as I can tell it will not save any file. It certainly does not \
save files to the directory I tell it to. I tried saving a project and printing \
a PDF with the target being /home/bgee/Documents ... but nothing ever appears \
there. Curiously, when I reprint to the same filename, it says that file \
already exists! Double curious - Exporting as a PNG does put the file where I \
expect it.</p> <br /><p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">There is something \
weird going on. Are the files being saved inside a virtual environment? \
If so, how do I get to them from outside the virtual environment?</p> <br /><p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Flatpaks, snaps \
and containers all strike me as a very neat solution for which no problem \
exists. It took about 1 gigabyte of downloads to support a program that is less \
than 20 megabytes in size. It won't save files where I tell it to. The \
filename dialog boxes always pop up behind all other windows when they should be at \
the top of the Z-order. If I change themes, colors, icons, pointers, the \
changes are not used by the flatpak application.</p> <br /><p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">So what is the \
advantage?</p> <p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">-- </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Bill Gee</p> <br \
/><br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;"><br \
/>On Monday, January 4, 2021 2:51:45 PM CST Alexander Semke wrote:</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Bill, would \
flatpack be an option for you?</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> \
https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.kde.labplot2</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Gesendet: \
Montag, 04. Januar 2021 um 21:30 Uhr</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Von: \
"Bill Gee" <bgee@campercaver.net></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> An: \
kde-edu@kde.org, "Alexander Semke" <alexander.semke@web.de></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Cc: \
kde-edu@mail.kde.org</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Betreff: Re: \
Aw: LabPlot - Cannot print or export</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Hi Alexander \
-</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Who'd a \
thunk it? Your suggestion of skipping the workbook and going straight to a \
spreadsheet works! I can print and export plots, and the saved project will reload \
with all my plots present. When the plots are inside a workbook, the print and \
export options do nothing.</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Yeah, it \
would be nice to have the current version, but I don't see an easy way to do it until \
some Fedora maintainer gets around to building a new package.</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Many thanks \
for your help.</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> --</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Bill Gee</p> \
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> On Monday, \
January 4, 2021 2:14:12 PM CST Alexander Semke wrote:</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Hi \
Bill,</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> \
</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > \
</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > we \
had a problem with restoring the connections to columns in spreadsheets that are part \
of a workbook. This bug is already fixed but I think it's still present in the \
version you're using. To workaround this problem now without upgrading to the most \
recent version (should be the preferred way, though) is to create a \
"stand-alone" spreadsheet. So, just create a new spreadsheet without the \
workbook and import your data.</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > As to \
the export, this should work actually. If you select the plot and click on the export \
button in the toolbar, are you able to export to PDF and PNG or JPEG?</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > \
Regards,</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> \
</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > \
Alexander</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> \
</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > \
</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > \
Gesendet: Montag, 04. Januar 2021 um 20:42 Uhr</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Von: \
"Bill Gee" <bgee@campercaver.net></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > An: \
kde-edu@mail.kde.org</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Betreff: \
LabPlot - Cannot print or export</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Fedora \
33, KDE/Plasma desktop, LabPlot version 2.7.0 from the Fedora repository</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > I touch \
LabPlot once a year for a special need, so much of my knowledge evaporates over the \
year. It is time for me to get back to it.</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > I have a \
project with a workbook that links to a CSV file of values. I figured out how to \
create a basic plot. Now I have two problems:</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > 1) When \
I save the project, the plots are NOT saved. Every time I open the project, I have \
to create the plots again. Who can I save plots?</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > 2) Once \
the plots are created, I want to print them to PDF and export them to JPG. \
File-Print and File-Export do nothing. It is like clicking on /dev/null. There is \
no error, no windows pop up, nothing is printed ... How can I get these features to \
work? It is almost like LabPlot thinks there is nothing to print.</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > If I \
select the worksheet, then File-Export does work. Of course, that's not what I want \
to export! When i select a plot, I get nothing.</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Snaps \
are not an option. The version of LabPlot in the snap library is 2.6.0 which does \
not have some of the features I need. Flatpaks are not an option because the flatpak \
package requires Wayland, and I cannot run that. The nVidia display driver does not \
work with Wayland. And as a matter of sensibility, the flatpak wants to install \
something like 2 gigabytes of stuff. WTF?????</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > I tried \
compiling 2.8.1 from source, but that throws hundreds of dependency errors. I have \
no idea what it is asking for.</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > -- Could \
NOT find KF5Archive (missing: KF5Archive_DIR)</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > -- Could \
NOT find KF5Archive: found neither KF5ArchiveConfig.cmake nor kf5archive-config.cmake \
</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > -- \
Could NOT find KF5Completion (missing: KF5Completion_DIR)</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > -- Could \
NOT find KF5Completion: found neither KF5CompletionConfig.cmake nor \
kf5completion-config.cmake</p> <p \
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open for suggestions.</p> <p \
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style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > \
Thanks!</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> \
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</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > \
--</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> \
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</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > \
Bill Gee</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> \
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</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > \
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