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Subject: Re: Basic words in a new language
From: Bèrto ëd Sèra <berto.d.sera () gmail ! com>
Date: 2013-08-09 14:05:33
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Hi,
Why don't you get an existing collection of similar size from Parley and
use that? It will probably be generic enough for a start.
Bèrto
On 9 August 2013 15:01, Yuri Chornoivan <yurchor@ukr.net> wrote:
>
>
> --- Оригінальне повідомлення ---
> Від кого: "Inge Wallin" <inge@lysator.liu.se>
> Дата: 9 серпня 2013, 16:32:09
>
>
> > Come on!
> >
> >
> >
> > Is there really nobody who have an opinion on the first words to learn
> in a new language?
>
> Hi,
>
> I think the list of such words strongly depends on the goal of the
> learning of foreign language. One book that is meant to study
> mathematicians to write scientific texts for English journals recommends
> ~30 phrases and ~20 rules to use in the texts and that's enough (tested). ;)
>
> For spoken conversation, words do not mean much but phrases do.
>
> If you want to read papers, some statistical analysis can be at hand [1]
> (analysis can be complex if the inflexion rules should be taken into
> account). There are many linguistic papers on the topic of decipher of
> ancient languages and statistical methods are proven to be effective if
> some language rules and the direction of writing are known.
>
> // I am not a linguist. ;)
>
> Best regards,
> Yuri
>
> [1]
> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/41479/find-n-most-frequent-words-in-a-file
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<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br>Why don't you get an existing collection of similar \
size from Parley and use that? It will probably be generic enough for a \
start.</div><div><br></div><div>Bèrto</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"> \
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 9 August 2013 15:01, Yuri Chornoivan <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yurchor@ukr.net" \
target="_blank">yurchor@ukr.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
<br>
--- Оригінальне повідомлення ---<br>
Від кого: "Inge Wallin" <<a \
href="mailto:inge@lysator.liu.se">inge@lysator.liu.se</a>><br> Дата: 9 \
серпня 2013, 16:32:09<br> <div class="im"><br>
<br>
> Come on!<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Is there really nobody who have an opinion on the first words to learn in a new \
language?<br> <br>
</div>Hi,<br>
<br>
I think the list of such words strongly depends on the goal of the learning of \
foreign language. One book that is meant to study mathematicians to write scientific \
texts for English journals recommends ~30 phrases and ~20 rules to use in the texts \
and that's enough (tested). ;)<br>
<br>
For spoken conversation, words do not mean much but phrases do.<br>
<br>
If you want to read papers, some statistical analysis can be at hand [1] (analysis \
can be complex if the inflexion rules should be taken into account). There are many \
linguistic papers on the topic of decipher of ancient languages and statistical \
methods are proven to be effective if some language rules and the direction of \
writing are known.<br>
<br>
// I am not a linguist. ;)<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Yuri<br>
<br>
[1] <a href="http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/41479/find-n-most-frequent-words-in-a-file" \
target="_blank">http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/41479/find-n-most-frequent-words-in-a-file</a><br>
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