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Subject:    [kde-edu]: Re: GSoC Proposal: Classroom mode
From:       Ben Crawford <crawford_ben () yahoo ! ca>
Date:       2011-02-24 8:17:54
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Good evening,

As a high school teacher I can say that this would be a very worthwhile feature.

I would like to add my 2 cents to the brain storm.

Features that would be good:
1.  Ability to export the data, say as csv.  All too often we teachers require 
such data and having it available in a common format that is easy to manipulate 
and upload to other reporting software is a very useful feature.
2.  A common way to assign the tasks within the applications would be 
excellent.  Each program has its own features to learn as is, but it would be 
great if the UI would be consistent throughout all programs.
3.  The ability to assign tasks that must be completed before students can go on 
to other work, for instance a student must attempt 10 words in a particular 
khangman category before being able to move on to other categories.

In my opinion this would be implemented as a plugin or module, then individual 
programs would be adapted to feed information into this new feature.

Tracking individual students would be a must.  I know at my high school all 
students have individual logins.  However, all the local primary schools just 
use a generic login for which ever room they happen to be in.  User management 
would then perhaps need to be done at some level.  Perhaps even just a popup 
asking for a name when a task is completed so the results could be recorded.  
This popup could possibly be enabled/disabled when tasks are set, something like 
a check box to prompt user for their name or use current logged in user.

Just my thoughts.

Keep up the outstanding work.

Ben




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From: Sebastian Stein <seb_stein@gmx.de>
To: kde-edu@kde.org
Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 11:43:10 PM
Subject: [kde-edu]: Re: GSoC Proposal: Classroom mode

Ahel ibn Alquivr <ahelibnalquivr@gmail.com> [110219 19:02]:
> i think it can be very cool to develop this fuction.
> i think i'd like to apply this function on GSoC, but yes some more
> brainstorming there can be an help to find a way to implement.

Ok, I think it is clear that it must be an option, but not a requirement for
all apps. I imagine that there is some kind of central component where a
teacher could define tasks for his pupils like 

- do 10 exercises with KBruch
- train following list of words with KHangMan
- etc.

The teacher should also be able to get the results of those exercises. It
might be even useful that he could define the exact tasks to solve. For
example, he could use KBruch to do some kind of exam with his pupils.

Interesting points besides how to integrate that in the different edu apps
is how to handle user management. For example, do we expect that each pupil
got an account on the Linux system or do we have to establish our own user
management?

Regards,

Sebastian

PS: Starting tonight, I'm out travelling for work and won't respond.
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div>Good \
evening,<br><br>As a high school teacher I can say that this would be a \
very worthwhile feature.<br><br>I would like to add my 2 cents to the brain \
storm.<br><br>Features that would be good:<br>1.&nbsp; Ability to export \
the data, say as csv.&nbsp; All too often we teachers require such data and \
having it available in a common format that is easy to manipulate and \
upload to other reporting software is a very useful feature.<br>2.&nbsp; A \
common way to assign the tasks within the applications would be \
excellent.&nbsp; Each program has its own features to learn as is, but it \
would be great if the UI would be consistent throughout all \
programs.<br>3.&nbsp; The ability to assign tasks that must be completed \
before students can go on to other work, for instance a student must \
attempt 10 words in a  particular khangman category before being able to \
move on to other categories.<br><br>In my opinion this would be implemented \
as a plugin or module, then individual programs would be adapted to feed \
information into this new feature.<br><br>Tracking individual students \
would be a must.&nbsp; I know at my high school all students have \
individual logins.&nbsp; However, all the local primary schools just use a \
generic login for which ever room they happen to be in.&nbsp; User \
management would then perhaps need to be done at some level.&nbsp; Perhaps \
even just a popup asking for a name when a task is completed so the results \
could be recorded.&nbsp; This popup could possibly be enabled/disabled when \
tasks are set, something like a check box to prompt user for their name or \
use current logged in user.<br><br>Just my thoughts.<br><br>Keep up the \
outstanding work.<br><br>Ben<br></div><div style="font-family: \
arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:  12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: \
verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" \
size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> \
Sebastian Stein &lt;seb_stein@gmx.de&gt;<br><b><span style="font-weight: \
bold;">To:</span></b> kde-edu@kde.org<br><b><span style="font-weight: \
bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sun, February 20, 2011 11:43:10 PM<br><b><span \
style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [kde-edu]: Re: GSoC \
Proposal: Classroom mode<br></font><br>Ahel ibn Alquivr &lt;<a \
ymailto="mailto:ahelibnalquivr@gmail.com" \
href="mailto:ahelibnalquivr@gmail.com">ahelibnalquivr@gmail.com</a>&gt; \
[110219 19:02]:<br>&gt; i think it can be very cool to develop this \
fuction.<br>&gt; i think i'd like to apply this function on GSoC, but yes \
some more<br>&gt; brainstorming there can be an help to find a way to \
implement.<br><br>Ok, I think it is clear that it must be an option, but \
not a requirement for<br>all apps. I imagine  that there is some kind of \
central component where a<br>teacher could define tasks for his pupils like \
<br><br>- do 10 exercises with KBruch<br>- train following list of words \
with KHangMan<br>- etc.<br><br>The teacher should also be able to get the \
results of those exercises. It<br>might be even useful that he could define \
the exact tasks to solve. For<br>example, he could use KBruch to do some \
kind of exam with his pupils.<br><br>Interesting points besides how to \
integrate that in the different edu apps<br>is how to handle user \
management. For example, do we expect that each pupil<br>got an account on \
the Linux system or do we have to establish our own \
user<br>management?<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Sebastian<br><br>PS: Starting \
tonight, I'm out travelling for work and won't \
respond.<br>_______________________________________________<br>kde-edu \
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