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Subject:    [kde-doc-english] Wireless disabled by Network manager and cannot rectify
From:       graham <gsheward () xtra ! co ! nz>
Date:       2014-10-26 21:13:10
Message-ID: 544D63E6.3060809 () xtra ! co ! nz
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Hi,
Without being negative, I am one of more than 90% of computer users who 
do not know the ins and outs of configuring devices, nor how to find the 
required information for configurations, nor what packages to load 
(which is an Opensuse issue and perhaps you can please pass this onto 
them as I cannot get the Bug Reporting thing working).

I have a successful install of OpenSuse 13.2 RC1 on HP PorBook 6540B. 
During the install, without enternet cable attached the wireless was 
auot configured (which is what I was hoping for). After first boot, 
KDE's Network manager has disabled wireless and I cannot get it working. 
Here are some issues.

The YAST Network setting dialogue no longer has IFUP, it depend on KDE's 
Network manager to auto-configure and switch between cable and wireless 
automatically.

The help dialogue on the internet instructs one to use KDE /Main Menu, 
System Settings, Network and Connectivity, etc/. Sadly, this item 
/Network and Connectivity/ is not available. So I used Configure 
Desktop, Network Settings and that doesn't make any sense to a computer 
illiterate like me. I opened the KDE help manual, got to KNetAttach, 
which also doesnt help as I am unable to get the information required. 
Consequently, I am unable to proceed further.

Wireless internet is my only option with this laptop as I do not have a 
cable connection at work. Hence, it is why I still have a windows 
operating system as it connects wirelessly to the outside world. In my 
opinion, there are three major issues why people do not convert to Linux:

1. Audio players that do not automount the cd drive: Amarok never has on 
my computers. I have to use K3b to rip the audio to hard drive. Amarok 
has resolved the codec issue.
2. There are issue surrounding KDE applications when KDE is a new 
version and the current applications aren't available for the new version.
3. The automatic internet connections. Clearly, this is still a problem 
as shown above.

It is important to understand that the majority of computer users use 
windows precisely because the fundamental applications, office suite, 
audio and video players, internet browsers and mail work without the 
need to manually configure them. Why KDE and the Linux variants haven't 
resolved this issue defies common sense, because if they did, they would 
put themselves on the OS market in a huge financial way. For the record, 
my main use of Linux is XFig and TexMaker, email and *internet*, Octave, 
*music*, videos and photos. From this you can see where the issues lie. 
Texstudio, which seems to clone TexMaker is available for windows, but 
XFig insn't.

While Netwrok Manager is intended to resolve the issue raised here: 
automatic configuration and switching of wireless/cable internet 
connection, for some reason it hasn't. All the availalbe help 
instructions fail, because we don't know the required information and 
the menu times in both KDE and Opensuse's Yast have changed. You cannot 
seriously expect 90% of the worlds population to learn how to configure 
KDE and Linux OS, although some will.

Thankyou for taking the time to read this and I really hope you address 
the issues.
Regards.
Graham

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    Hi,<br>
    Without being negative, I am one of more than 90% of computer users
    who do not know the ins and outs of configuring devices, nor how to
    find the required information for configurations, nor what packages
    to load (which is an Opensuse issue and perhaps you can please pass
    this onto them as I cannot get the Bug Reporting thing working).<br>
    <br>
    I have a successful install of OpenSuse 13.2 RC1 on HP PorBook
    6540B. During the install, without enternet cable attached the
    wireless was auot configured (which is what I was hoping for). After
    first boot, KDE's Network manager has disabled wireless and I cannot
    get it working. Here are some issues.<br>
    <br>
    The YAST Network setting dialogue no longer has IFUP, it depend on
    KDE's Network manager to auto-configure and switch between cable and
    wireless automatically.<br>
    <br>
    The help dialogue on the internet instructs one to use KDE <i>Main
      Menu, System Settings, Network and Connectivity, etc</i>. Sadly,
    this item <i>Network and Connectivity</i> is not available. So I
    used Configure Desktop, Network Settings and that doesn't make any
    sense to a computer illiterate like me. I opened the KDE help
    manual, got to KNetAttach, which also doesnt help as I am unable to
    get the information required. Consequently, I am unable to proceed
    further.<br>
    <br>
    Wireless internet is my only option with this laptop as I do not
    have a cable connection at work. Hence, it is why I still have a
    windows operating system as it connects wirelessly to the outside
    world. In my opinion, there are three major issues why people do not
    convert to Linux:<br>
    <br>
    1. Audio players that do not automount the cd drive: Amarok never
    has on my computers. I have to use K3b to rip the audio to hard
    drive. Amarok has resolved the codec issue.<br>
    2. There are issue surrounding KDE applications when KDE is a new
    version and the current applications aren't available for the new
    version.<br>
    3. The automatic internet connections. Clearly, this is still a
    problem as shown above.<br>
    <br>
    It is important to understand that the majority of computer users
    use windows precisely because the fundamental applications, office
    suite, audio and video players, internet browsers and mail work
    without the need to manually configure them. Why KDE and the Linux
    variants haven't resolved this issue defies common sense, because if
    they did, they would put themselves on the OS market in a huge
    financial way. For the record, my main use of Linux is XFig and
    TexMaker, email and <b>internet</b>, Octave, <b>music</b>, videos
    and photos. From this you can see where the issues lie. Texstudio,
    which seems to clone TexMaker is available for windows, but XFig
    insn't.<br>
    <br>
    While Netwrok Manager is intended to resolve the issue raised here:
    automatic configuration and switching of wireless/cable internet
    connection, for some reason it hasn't. All the availalbe help
    instructions fail, because we don't know the required information
    and the menu times in both KDE and Opensuse's Yast have changed. You
    cannot seriously expect 90% of the worlds population to learn how to
    configure KDE and Linux OS, although some will. <br>
    <br>
    Thankyou for taking the time to read this and I really hope you
    address the issues.<br>
    Regards.<br>
    Graham<br>
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