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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: K-ARTIST:Re: K start menu icon ideas
From:       Andreas Pour <pour () mieterra ! com>
Date:       2001-07-28 6:39:16
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Hi,

Torsten, you make good points.  However, I do think "Start" is too much
of a copy; if one can find something that answers the user's first
question -- how do I get going -- but is different, that to me is
preferred.

Here are some options I brain-stormed, pretty much in order I like them:

  - Menu
  - Main Menu
  - Begin
  - Go <-- people used to this from the web
  - Commands
  - Choices
  - Options
  - Programs
  - Do Stuff

Then of course is another option (configurable of course and it should
complement a useful name for the main menu), but which I find pretty
handy:  have Kicker open the menu when it starts up.  Alternatively, the
menu could be detached and sit on the desktop, with a "close" button.  A
third option is the tooltip which appears next to the menu, but that is
only a substitute for what you really want to do, which is show people
the menu.  A KPersonalizer option could enable/disable this.  I actually
would find this handy, b/c the first thing I usu. do when the desktop
starts is want to start an app with the menu and this would save me the
trip to the "K".  If I don't want to use the menu I would just click
somewhere in the desktop and it would go away.

The issue is pretty simple, people want to do stuff but don't know how. 
Actually presenting the menu, instead of forcing people to read
everything on the desktop and try to make sense of it, would be to me
the clearest indicator.

Ciao,

Dre


Torsten Rahn wrote:
> 
> Martijn Klingens wrote:
> >
> > On Saturday 28 July 2001 01:01, Sheldon Lee Wen wrote:
> > --- snip ---
> >
> > I think the text "start" is conceptually wrong because things like configure,
> > lock and log out are there as well, but I like your snapshot3.png quite a lot.
> 
> I here this point very often - especially from people who think that
> they know more about usability than MS.
> 
> But these people who feel smart enough to criticise the naming of
> "Start" often miss one point:
> 
> When people see the desktop the VERY first time, all of them will ask
> themselves "Where do I start?". They see the "Start"-button and get the
> answer. Pressing the button is the very first action you have to do to
> "Configure stuff", "Start applications" or whatever. So in this way it's
> very descriptive.
> 
> After they hit the "Start"-Button the very first time they are
> intelligent enough to realize that pressing the start-button might offer
> a lot more tasks than they might have expected. So actually the name
> "Start" serves its purpose. And I have never seen any user actually
> having problems due to the naming of "Start".
>
 
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