Hi, A few people have told be to post thie to KDE artists, or KDE look or even KDE devel so I'm posting it to all of them. There has recently been some discussion on improving the usability of KDE as a result of the gnome usability study that sun did. One of the things that was raised was that the K menu button was just as ambiguous as the gnome foot, something which was cited as a problem for usability. A few suggestions have been made as to improve this aspect of KDE> One very good suggestion put forward was to make the icon wider, thus improving it's visibility on kicker. In that vein I've bashed a few pixels together and done some concept shots of what one might look like. Now, I'm no artist so these aren't real icons or anything, but they give you the idea. I'd also welcome other ideas as well. OK, you KDE veterans, don't freak out when you see the "start" ones. You can see them on a corner of my website I threw up for KDE, here: http://lycadican.sourceforge.net/kde/ -- =========================================================== "... all thoughts of selfish desire, ill-will, hatred and violence are the result of a lack of wisdom ... " - Buddha For an awsome fantasy role playing game checkout: http://lycadican.sourceforge.net =========================================================== >> Visit http://master.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to unsubscribe <<