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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: Removal of Pixie?
From:       mosfet <mosfet () mandrakesoft ! com>
Date:       2001-06-16 17:27:50
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Tell that to the release maintainer... and calling me a "5yr old" isn't
really an effective way to convince me to work with you guys anymore,
either ;-)

People can of course still of course contribute translations,
documentation and bugfixes, and I'll probably set up a CVS independent
of KDE. These contributions are very welcome and important, but other
than minor bugfix contributions they are the *only* contributions made.
Nothing really code-wise. The only real benefit of keeping Pixie in CVS
was the translators and documenters, who do a really good job, but they
don't have to work outside of KDE CVS. It will still use KDE
documentation and translations format if they still wish to contribute.

I also really wouldn't suggest forking my code and reimporting into CVS.
If developers decide they want to do something else with their
applications and remove it from the KDE packages, and you decide to fork
it and import unofficial and unmaintained versions, your asking for a
lot more problems. Putting applications in CVS without the authors
permission or consent is a bad idea, and it would be better for users
for them to use RPM's of official versions, not a KDE CVS fork.

David Faure wrote:
> 
> On Sunday 17 June 2001 06:33, mosfet wrote:
> >
> > As for Pixie, I'm redoing the UI for it anyways, so it also makes sense
> > that I take it out of KDE2.2 and release it separately. I was originally
> > going to leave it in, but I don't really feel like dealing with it in
> > there, and if people get pissed off that I don't really like doing stuff
> > in CVS anymore, don't like my work, and suggest I remove it I'm not
> > going to argue with them. I think it's good code and am confident lots
> > of people will use it anyways, especially when the UI rewrite is done.
> 
> And what do you do about all the people who wrote documentation and
> translations for pixie - and those who bugfixed ? Just send them to hell ?
> This type of behaviour is unacceptable. We can't start having apps in CVS
> for a long time, and one day they're gone. Once you add something to the CVS,
> you commit yourself to at least discussing it before removing it. Too many people
> are involved in the process. You didn't only remove your stuff, you removed other's.
> Pixie will be reimported to the CVS, either by you or by me, for this reason.
> I'd rather you play by the rules and maintain the app in CVS, than continue
> playing the 5-year-old that everything pisses off and decide to maintain it
> "on your own". Who's going to translate and document it ? You really think
> "lots of people will use it" ? A LOT less than it being in the CVS. For starters,
> no non-English users.
> 
> Seriously, how do you wish things would happen ? No release, we just let
> developers break everything all the time and users compile everything on their
> own from CVS ? This isn't 1996 anymore...
> 
> --
> Per his initials, God was simply a "Good Oop Developer".
> -- Richard Bos
> 
> David FAURE, david@mandrakesoft.com, faure@kde.org
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