Hi! instead of twm & I put /home/gass/d2/opt/kde2/bin/kdmdesktop & /home/gass/d2/opt/kde2/bin/kicker & /home/gass/d2/opt/kde2/bin/kwin & into ~/.vnc/xstartup This brings up a nice and working KDE desktop in vnc on a MS box (besides the one on the box itself :-) 2 shortcomings so far: * the kdmdesktop is to big, consequently I have to scroll around to reach the titlebars and kicker. * the MB are not woring when clicking on the desktop Any way to control the size of the desktop window? cu ferdinand >> Visit http://master.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to unsubscribe <<