From kde-devel  Sat Dec 30 17:11:55 2000
From: martijnklingens () netscape ! net
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 17:11:55 +0000
To: kde-devel
Subject: Bug#17877: Editing documents opened from Konqueror from non-local storage doesn't work correctly
X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-devel&m=97819681332331

Package: kdelibs
Version: KDE 2.1 Beta 1
Severity: normal
Installed from: SuSE 7.0 RPMs

Before I describe my bug below: I know that this is 
actually a wishlist item, but novice users that are not 
familiar with KDE's or Linux's architecture will recognize 
this as a bug and not as a missing feature. Therefore, I'm 
filing this bug from a user's point of view, and not a 
developer's.

Whenever I open a document from a non-local location like 
an ftp link to my other computer I cannot save a file 
until I close the application. When I close, the kfmclient 
asks me if I want to resync the file, but saving a file 
from the application does not work correctly.

This is obvious behaviour for legacy X applications that 
don't know KIO, but e.g. kedit should be able to handle 
kio urls natively.

This behaviour raises a few issues and questions. I think 
the best approach would be to add a checkbox in the 
keditfiletype database whether an application is kio 
compatible or not. If so, the application is started with 
the original url and not from kfmclient's local cache.
Legacy X apps will still be started from kfmclient. In 
this case, however, it would be wise to tell users that 
changes will not be applied until you close the 
application. A checkbox to turn that warning off is 
welcome there.

Another option, which is more difficult to implement in a 
user friendly way is to define addresses that should 
always be opened using kfmclient, because they are behind 
a dialup link. That would make it possible for me to edit 
files on the internet offline, without having to keep the 
line open, but still allows me to access other files on my 
LAN directly. The problem with this option is that even if 
you normally want to use offline editing, there may be 
cases in which you still want to force an application to 
use kio. An example would be editing a remote web site 
when you want to be able to preview the results directly.
Whatever approach is used (this or another solution), I am 
willing to help with it, _BUT_ I don't have a permanent 
internet connection and virtually no knowledge of KDE/Qt 
programming, so I'm not sure if it is a good idea if I do.

After typing this long piece of text, I'm wondering if the 
mailing list isn't a better place for this. I'm leaving it 
up to you to decide, but apologies if this indeed is a 
mailing list issue (I'm not subscribed to them)

Thanks in advance for working these issues out. Feel free 
to send me an email if you have more questions, or want to 
discuss this issue any more.

Martijn Klingens


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