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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: Bug#17306: KDE 2.0 is a bug itself ...
From:       David van Hoose <david-vh () home ! com>
Date:       2000-12-19 17:16:26
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Leon Widdershoven wrote:
> 
> I think you hit the jackpot there. KDE is seen as the core
> libraries, the desktop environment and all it's applications.
> 
> For me, the desktop is stable. I never have problems with
> kicker, the background and such (yes, I compiled it myself:).
> 
> However, not all of the apps are already up to 100% stability;
> konqueror is not perfect yet, kmail does not have all the
> features I want, kaiman does not read my beautiful xmms
> skins. All these application 'errors' (don't flame; I
> quoted it!) reflect on the image of KDE in total. Which
> is a shame, since it's quite stable. At least my desktop
> stays alive, as does my system:)
> 
> Mybe it would be a good idea to separate the core libs and
> base package from the rest; in a PR point-of-view.
> Soemthing like: KDE 2.0 is out! and there are also applications
> ported to use it's thrilling features!
> 
> Just my 0.02$,
> Leon
> 
> Martin Heni wrote:
> >
> > > I'm running RedHat 7.0 with all update RPMS.
> > > I have the Qt-2.2.2 from ftp.kde.org on here.
> > > I have been experiencing problems with Konqueror, KMix, KPanel, KWord,
> > > KAudioServer, and other programs that are tied in with these.
> > > Konqueror: Displays micro-text. Crashes when browsing, configuring,
> > > adding bookmarks. Bookmark toolbar option turns itself off.
> >
> > I also run KDE on some RedHat 7.0 systems and do experience kind of
> > random crashes especially in kmail and konqueror. Nearly all backtraces
> > end up in pthread though. I think this indicates more a qt comiling/packaging
> > problem than a KDE failure. Nevertheless what people think of KDE will
> > be what they see when installing rpm packages - if  it crashes => KDE is
> > shit. It does not matter whose fault it actually was. This leads to the
> > question whether there should be a not only a KDE beta test phase but also a
> > more extened "beta" test of the packages software?

Good idea. I likes. I don't think that some of the packages should even
be packaged until their bugs are gone. We don't want newcomers to Linux
scared off by bad programs. I see a lot of people trying to switch to
Linux here in my city. These people are looking for stability. When they
see a system go apeshit, they move to the next system. We need to fix
these problems BEFORE the programs are released.

-- 
-Dave
 
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