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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: Bug#17306: KDE 2.0 is a bug itself ...
From:       Vadim Plessky <lucy-ples () mtu-net ! ru>
Date:       2000-12-19 12:16:02
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Tuesday 19 December 2000 10:54, Martin Heni ???????:
|   > I'm running RedHat 7.0 with all update RPMS.
|   > I have the Qt-2.2.2 from ftp.kde.org on here.
|   > I have been experiencing problems with Konqueror, KMix, KPanel, KWord,
|   > KAudioServer, and other programs that are tied in with these.
|   > Konqueror: Displays micro-text. Crashes when browsing, configuring,
|   > adding bookmarks. Bookmark toolbar option turns itself off.
|
|   I also run KDE on some RedHat 7.0 systems and do experience kind of
|   random crashes especially in kmail and konqueror. Nearly all backtraces
|   end up in pthread though. I think this indicates more a qt
| comiling/packaging problem than a KDE failure. Nevertheless what people
| think of KDE will be what they see when installing rpm packages - if  it
| crashes => KDE is shit. It does not matter whose fault it actually was.
| This leads to the question whether there should be a not only a KDE beta
| test phase but also a more extened "beta" test of the packages software?

Mandrake makes *continuos* package update.
Practically speaking, you can upgrade to KDE 2.1 CVS, may be, with 2-3 days 
delay.

Let me quote here mail from Chris Molnar concerning this:
> > I have made a new KDE PRE 2.1 CVS build available for Mandrake 7.2. You
> > can get this build from:
> >
> > ftp://nebsllc.com/pub/KDE_UPDATE
> >
> > You can use mandrake update to get this build (you will need to manually
> > enter the path), but there are dependencies on libical (in the same ftp
> > directory).  If you need to ask me for help on how to install, you should
> > not be running a test build and I will tell you so.
> >
> > Have fun. Remember these builds are made by me and are 100% unsupported
> > by Mandrakesoft. I run them here and they work on a 7.2 machine. Please
> > do not blame me if they do not work on yours.
> >
To be 100% precise, it is Chris Molnar's initiative [thanks, Chris!]. These 
build are *unsupported* by Mandrakesoft, for some reason.
But, I prefer unsupported *working* binary packages instead of *supported, 
non-working* . Hope other people share this vision with me.

I also have seen that many problems KDE inherits from X. 
X is very limited on fonts. You can't have good view in KDE without TrueType 
fonts installed from Windows. It's a pity, but it's reality.
I would like also to recommend here to install KDE/Linux with English 
language first, then update to you normal language setting.
Then you will blaim only localization, not KDE itself.

I can tell you here then even very nice Linux Mandrake 7.2 with KDE2 
*standard* crashes if you install it with Russian language option. Just 
because of fonts ...
|
|   Martin

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Vadim Plessky
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