From kde-devel  Tue Dec 19 11:05:04 2000
From: Leon Widdershoven <l.widdershoven () fz-juelich ! de>
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 11:05:04 +0000
To: kde-devel
Subject: Re: Bug#17306: KDE 2.0 is a bug itself ...
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I think you hit the jackpot there. KDE is seen as the core
libraries, the desktop environment and all it's applications.


For me, the desktop is stable. I never have problems with 
kicker, the background and such (yes, I compiled it myself:).

However, not all of the apps are already up to 100% stability; 
konqueror is not perfect yet, kmail does not have all the 
features I want, kaiman does not read my beautiful xmms
skins. All these application 'errors' (don't flame; I 
quoted it!) reflect on the image of KDE in total. Which
is a shame, since it's quite stable. At least my desktop
stays alive, as does my system:)

Mybe it would be a good idea to separate the core libs and
base package from the rest; in a PR point-of-view. 
Soemthing like: KDE 2.0 is out! and there are also applications
ported to use it's thrilling features!

Just my 0.02$,
Leon

Martin Heni wrote:
> 
> > I'm running RedHat 7.0 with all update RPMS.
> > I have the Qt-2.2.2 from ftp.kde.org on here.
> > I have been experiencing problems with Konqueror, KMix, KPanel, KWord,
> > KAudioServer, and other programs that are tied in with these.
> > Konqueror: Displays micro-text. Crashes when browsing, configuring,
> > adding bookmarks. Bookmark toolbar option turns itself off.
> 
> I also run KDE on some RedHat 7.0 systems and do experience kind of
> random crashes especially in kmail and konqueror. Nearly all backtraces
> end up in pthread though. I think this indicates more a qt comiling/packaging
> problem than a KDE failure. Nevertheless what people think of KDE will
> be what they see when installing rpm packages - if  it crashes => KDE is
> shit. It does not matter whose fault it actually was. This leads to the
> question whether there should be a not only a KDE beta test phase but also a
> more extened "beta" test of the packages software?
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
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