From kde-devel  Tue Jun 13 13:26:59 2000
From: mosfet <mosfet () mandrakesoft ! com>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:26:59 +0000
To: kde-devel
Subject: Re: The Licencing Issue
X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-devel&m=96090322100315

Roberto Alsina wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Talin wrote:
> 
> Everything I say below is just my opinion, I am not speaking for anyone.
> 
> > Here are some things that I hear often from KDE developers on this
> > issue:
> >
> > 1. "We don't need to change the license, therefore we won't change it."
> >
> >       My question is: Do you generally refuse to add features that your users
> > have requested, even if you personally don't need them?
> 
> I refuse to do lots of things if I feel I shouldn't do them.

You know, this same question can be asked of Debian ;-) It is legal to
include KDE, their users ask them to do so all the time, everyone else
does, yet they refuse :) Debian refuses to do things all the time if
they are asked to do something they feel is wrong :P

> 
> Then again, I did release software under very liberal licenses and Debian
> would still not accept it. KFTE is under the LGPL and there is no way to
> even start packaging for debian, because kdelibs is not in debian,
> although there is no licensing argument against it.
> 
> > 2. "Those Debian people are being unreasonable - they are fanatics and
> > their interpretation of the legal issues are wrong."
> >
> >       There are always going to be people in the world who disagree about
> > things. Neither KDE or Debian is going to change it's fundamental
> > position. That doesn't mean that they can't work together.
> 
> I only care about things I do for free when they are fun. This debian crap
> stopped being fun many moons ago.
> 
> > 3. "Those Debian people are in a conspiracy to keep KDE out of their
> > distribution."
> 
> [snip long stuff]
> 
> Debian claims they only act out of principle. Well, since they have
> already talked the talk, what about walking the wal, and accepting into
> Debian the packages that don't have any goddamn licensing problems?
> 
> You know, if Debian made ANY signs of good will it would help a whole
> fucking lot.
> 
> Do I sound pissed? I am.
> 
>  ("\''/").__..-''"`-. .         Roberto Alsina
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> 
> 
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