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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: kdegraphics
From:       Darius Stachow <dstachow () ngi ! de>
Date:       2000-05-11 13:47:13
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Hello,

Unfortunately kUML still hasn't reached beta or alpha status. We're still
working on making kUML not just a simple diagram editor but a complete modeling
environment.

Reading and writing models don't work for the moment because Geoff Glasson is
working on a replacement for the current IO subsystem. He is working on a
framework that will allow to read and store models in different file formats.
The current used IO is based on human readable object serializing.

As you can't store models now all work will be lost but it can
be used to reverse engineer sourcecodes (C++ and java) and make a bitmap
snapshot of the diagrams for documentation purposes. The parsers are very
robust and shouldn't have problems with large projects (The c++ parser is
taken from kdevelop)

This year there should be stable version that can be used.


On Mit, 10 Mai 2000, Richard Moore wrote:
>Matthias Hoelzer-Kluepfel wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, 10 May 2000, Richard Moore wrote:
>> > Matthias Hoelzer-Kluepfel wrote:
>> >
>> > > a) removing kpaint and kiconedit, as both are unmaintained
>> > >    and full of problems
>> >
>> > There have been a few people working on kpaint, you should check
>> > with them before removing it.
>> 
>> Do you know who they are? I did a couple of fixes in the last days,
>> because I think kpaint is an important application, but the deeper
>> I looked, the more problems I found.
>
>Not really, I just notice that the files are updated every so often.
>I don't have any real problem with removing it, but I think we should
>try to find a replacement. I have started working on Kipling
>(KPaint TNG) which will be a cross between vector and raster graphics,
>but I am focusing on KVNC right now.
>
>> 
>> > > c) replacing ksnapshot with a menu entry that directly calls
>> > >    pixie's snapshot dialog (if that is possible, mosfet?)
>> >
>> > I would be furious if this was done. KSnapshot is maintained and
>> > has much more functionality than Pixie's snapshot feature. It makes
>> > more sense in my mind for Pixie to call KSnapshot when it wants
>> > to take a snapshot.
>> 
>> Ok.
>
>BTW I have even more features waiting to be committed after the
>freeze. I have added a minimal mode which uses much less screen
>space and I am planning on DCOP communication to allow apps to
>call it via a simple API.
>
>> 
>>  > Please send any comments to me. Also, if you know a cool
>> > > graphics application that should go in, please let me know.
>> >
>> > How about KUML?
>> 
>> Is this ready for beta? It's been long since I last tried.
>
>I'm not sure, it was usable last time I had a go. Let's ask
>Darius Stachow <dstachow@ngi.de> (I've added him to the cc's)
>
>Rich.
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Darius Stachow

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