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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: Animated Menu's
From:       "Peter Thorstenson" <swede () openlink ! com ! br>
Date:       2000-05-06 6:55:06
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>Uwe Thiem wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 5 May 2000, mosfet wrote:
>>
>> > Dan Pilone wrote:
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, 05 May 2000, Jono Bacon wrote:
>> > > > > That's about it.  Mosfet
>> > > > > & I briefly talked about theming the animation too
>> > > > > but for now it's not being
>> > > > > done.  -- Dan
>> > > >
>> > > > Any idea who will do it or when it will be done? Do
>> > > > you think it will make it into KDE2?
>> > >
>> > >         (Ya got yer ears on mosfet?)  I'm willing to do it, but I
need mosfet's
>> > > blessing on it.  The animated menus as is will be in KDE 2, but more
>> > > animations, etc, probably not, but I could be wrong.  Also, only
highcolor
>> > > has the animated menus right now. -- Dan
>> > >
>> >
>> > I don't want to have several animated menu effects in the standard
>> > style. The standard style is run by default and we should be looking at
>> > trimming it down now. It doesn't help that after using animated menus I
>> > don't like them at all, but that is personal opinion ;-) Users request
>> > it enough to get it into KDE2, but I'm not convinced about the utility
>> > of it nearly enough to dedicate much code to it in the standard styles.
>>
>> Physiology advises to have it (configurable). The human nervous system
>> can cope better with things that appear gently than all of a sudden.
>> It's less of a surprise, less stress. Sure, some people are accustomed
>> to things appearing all of a sudden (primarily comuter geeks who live
>> in cyperspace).
>>
>> Therefore I advise to have animated menus in *all* styles (even if the
>> original ones we are simulating don't have them). Configurable.
>
>I disagree about your physiology statement. People expect their user
>interface to be responsive and consise as possible, not have visible
>delays and distracting elements like the animation for popup menus. I
>originally was *for* having animated menus, and possibly having them on
>by default! Then I actually used them, and the delay waiting for the
>animation frames to finish is unacceptable IMHO, even when it's only a
>few frames, and the visual appearance distracting no matter what effect
>(fade, scrolling, etc...). It's just plain annoying.


I competely agree!! I do not understand the importance of spending valuable
time on something that only is annoying and consumes computer power.
Everybody is SO concerned that the system have to be fast.  Why to build in
delays then!!!

>
>>
>> Uwe
>> (who won't use them but knows a lot of people being much more at ease
>> by having them)
>>
>
>I won't use them either, and have a hard time thinking of anyone who
>would consider it a must have or useful feature. It should be included
>because people seem to consider it cool eye candy, so we could use it in
>demos. But it's not useful and a lot of people *don't* like them, so it
>will be off by default and I'm not for having a bunch of effects in the
>styles.
>
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>



Peter Thorstenson
CoconutBeach
Rio de Janeiro

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