as of two days ago, changes in kicker have disabled docking. this is problematic if you use kppp, because once logged on, it's annoying to hang up -- you have to open a terminal and kill pppd. but . . . if you open kppp, click on setup, click on the misc tab, and uncheck docking, it will simply minimize to the taskbar -- along with a running total of time online. you can then get it back to log off by simply clicking on it in the taskbar. i've actually found that i like this better than docking, because it lets me have the time online at a glance, which is doesn't when docked. -- dep __ if you go with the flow you'll get chopped to pieces by the turbines.