Well, I feel that many people are interested that KDE2 becomes an easy-to-use, intuitive environment. I wonder if somebody has thought about to create a group of KDE developers and KDE users (as well as non-kde-users) to discuss about what is useful and what is not, and then decide or make suggestions what to change in KDE (or what is good). If such topics are discussed on the list, I always feel that the answers vary depending on in what mood someone is. So my idea: What about if we get a KDE usability crew? Details: - The group should consist of a vary of developers, KDE users, Windows users, and normal X users. This group should be well mixed up. - The KDE users, Windows users and normal X users bring in suggestions (of course the developers can do this, too). The developers check out if the suggestions of the users are realizeable (is that right? sound somehow wrong...my english processor is still booting :) - This crew also sends suggestions to the original application authors, as well as to the base developers. - It's also important that the members don't flame, e.g. they don't discuss about which OS is better or not. The primary goal is to look and compare and see what others made better what KDE doesn't, or find completely new ways. Combining existing things and creating new ones is the most powerful tool you got :) It is very important to know that this crew makes only TECHNICAL CORRECT SUGGESTIONS. These suggestions are not mandatory (that's why they are suggestions), the developers decide wether to implent these suggestions or not. yours Timo