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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: Java (was Re: Konquerer- The Everything browser)
From:       Richard Moore <rich () ipso-facto ! freeserve ! co ! uk>
Date:       1999-12-14 15:03:49
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Lars Knoll wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Richard Moore wrote:
> > Mosfet wrote:
> > >
> > > Richard Moore wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Lars Knoll wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 10 Dec 1999, Mark Deneen wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 10-Dec-99 Richard Moore wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lars Knoll wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Konqueror ;)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> It supports java since about 2 month. Just set the correct path to your
> > > > > > >> jdk in konqueror->options->browser (or something like that). I'm using
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yeah on the Advanced tab.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> jdk-1.1.7 and it works just fine. Ahh, and $JDKDIR/bin might have to be in
> > > > > > >> your path.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, at the moment it does need to be in the path. I am part way through
> > > > > > > fixing this. I have a big set of updates to commit to kdejava pretty
> > > > > > > soon that improve the string handling and the destruction of applets
> > > > > > > and contexts. I've also started working on the new API we talked about
> > > > > > > in Erlangen that makes it easy to manage the contexts properly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't have the jdk in my path, and konqueror still runs java applets.  (I
> > > > > > just put jdk1.2.2 on, and I never had any jdk's on here before.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (Dec 6th snap)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > QtAWT is coming along too - it's working with Qt 2 and I think I've
> > > > > > > finally figured out how to make the event dispatching work properly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> It works for most applets I encountered up to now. If you find one, that
> > > > > > >> konqi doesn't show, mail me the url.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please send any problem URLs to me too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some of the applets I try to run get drawn outside the konqy window.  (The
> > > > > > jumping/nervous text comes to mind, from the demos directory that comes in the
> > > > > > jdk.)
> > > > >
> > > > > I think this has something to do with the swallowing code in kjava. Mosfet
> > > > > also once told me, that he has problems with it.
> > > >
> > > > I'll have a look at this example and see if I can spot what's wrong.
> > > > Part of the problem is that we cannot use QXEmbed until I have finished
> > > > Qt AWT. :-(
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ah, I was going to try to port it >:) Okay, I'll wait. The java window
> > > only gets swallowed about a quarter of the time for me.
> >
> > I should be able to get the hack solution to work b4 krash, but
> 
> That would be great. It's sort of annoying, when you java window pops up
> outside of konqi.

I know - it's especially bad as it is prepared for swallowing and has
no title bar etc.

> 
> > after that I'll try to improve the protocol. QtAWT is still someway
> > off, they have added a lot of stuff to the peer classes in Java 2
> > that are needed for Swing suppoort, DnD etc. and this hasn't made
> > the task any easier. :-(
> 
> They are constantly adding things to make our task more complicated. DOM2 is
> shortly before being published, xhtml too... ;)

They've got no consideration ;-)

At least DOM2 etc. are documented, one of the big problems with
implementing the peer classes is that you need to basically reverse
engineer a spec because Sun hasn't written one.

Rich.

> 
> Cheers,
> Lars
> 
> >
> > Rich.
> >
> > >
> > > > Rich.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Lars
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >      Richard Moore              rich@ipso-facto.freeserve.co.uk
> > > > http://www.robocast.com/        richard@robocast.com
> > > > http://developer.kde.org/       rich@kde.org
> > >
> > > --
> > > Daniel M. Duley - Unix developer & sys admin.
> > > mosfet@mandrakesoft.com
> > > mosfet@kde.org
> > > mosfet@jorsm.com
> >
> > --
> >      Richard Moore            rich@ipso-facto.freeserve.co.uk
> > http://www.robocast.com/      richard@robocast.com
> > http://developer.kde.org/     rich@kde.org

-- 
     Richard Moore		rich@ipso-facto.freeserve.co.uk
http://www.robocast.com/	richard@robocast.com
http://developer.kde.org/	rich@kde.org

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