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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: KDE-1.1.2: Comments on all-new Wallpapers
From:       "Troy Unrau" <jhtd () mts ! net>
Date:       1999-09-08 3:50:43
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> On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, Mosfet wrote:
>
> > As well as several other flames directed at people's country of origin
> > by primary KDE developers and representitives. This fucking sickens
> > me. Nobody was saying such things about your countries yet you all
> > felt the need to totally flame the US and alienate most (everyone
> > except Alex?) US people on kde-devel over a damn wallpaper. Really
> > smart guys, this really helps us all out. Nobody wanted to censor KDE
> > or make a anti-drug statement, hell I am a liberal democrat and I
> > *have* inhaled before (although it made me light headed and I didn't
> > like it). But I do recognize that some people in my country are very
> > anti-drug and it can cause bad PR, which is bad for KDE. Since it was
> > such a stupid and silly thing I thought it should be removed. Now
> > thanks to you guys it has turned into the bashing of an entire
> > country.
>
> Here's the thing.  You *must* look at this from all sides.  When you see
> all this blatantly anti-US sludge, think about where it's comming from.
> America has many things against it in the eyes of the international
> community, such as its generous policy of hypocracy.  You could almost
> assume that Britons are annoyed since "we" split (altho I'd liken it more
> to the loss of a tumor).
>
> But then look at what America oozes.  Watch some reruns of the Real World
> London (on MTV), and watch the comments that the redneck twit makes about
> being proud to drink a straight up cup of coffee because he's American and
> not European.
>
> Infighting is just so common in most areas of the world, that to get your
> panties in a bunch over a freakin leaf is insane.
>
> > I thought this was an international effort.
>
> And it still is.
>
> > This thread, in all it silliness, has shown that there is very little
> > respect for people within my native land here. If that is the case
> > then fine, but I don't know what the hell myself or any other people
> > from my country are doing trying to help the project. If not I think
> > apologies are in order. I *never* would of attacked people's homeland
> > like several prominent people have done here and it makes me sick. I
> > wouldn't have posted this to a public list since usually I have more
> > respect and tact than this, but since those two qualities no longer
> > seem a requirement I figured that was not important anymore.
>
> I've noticed especially with me, I don't have a huge problem with blaring
> "America sucks".  When a non USA resident agrees with me, I can get
> touchy.  But again, before you knot your delicates, take a step back, a
> breath in and look at things again.  Most people, me included call them as
> they see them, and I assume that's what the Europeans have been doing.
>
> Face it, for better or for worse, every country has its share of stupid
> laws.  For me at least, it's really hard to look at some of the drug
> related laws in America and claim that they make sense.  Even harder for
> me to not call them stupid.

Hell, in Ottawa, it is illegal to eat an Ice Cream Sundae on the street on
Sunday.  Does this speak for Canada, hell no.  If it did, I'd be off to some
country where freedom was better respected.  If one cannot have the
judgement to control their tempers towards other coutries because of little
stupid things such as obsolete laws (2nd ammendment; Ice Cream Thingy) then
how on earth do they create things of great importance such as KDE.  I say
forget this whole thing and end this pathetic thread.  I much prefer
kde-devel related issues.

Troy

> But hey, that's the price we pay for voting a senile actor into the office
> of president.  Yes massah Regan, let's use laser beams to defeat Russia
> (SDI).  Yes massah Regan, let's sell crack in South Central (Iran-Contra).
> Yes massah Regan.
>
> P.S. If you're really a liberal democrat, have the conviction to stand
> behind your beliefs instead of bowing into corporate America, please!
>
> - alex
>

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