> >> I switched completely to the CVS last week after running both I switched to KDE 2 something like 4 or 6 weeks ago but I have been running KDE apps (such as kppp) from a term window in mwm most of the time (depending upon the state of kdebase). I am currently running KDE 2 kdesupport, kdelibs and kdebase but everything else is still lingering (and mostly usable) from previous versions. I added unixODBC ODBC Config to kdebase when it became stable (more or less) and I am currently awaiting a clean compile in kdeutils before adding the unixODBC DataManager. Peter Harvey