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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: utmp support in konsole [Was: Re: [PATCH] 1_1_BRANCH: kvt, pty and
From:       Stephan Kulow <coolo () caldera ! de>
Date:       1999-07-27 6:53:19
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Lars Doelle wrote:
> 
> Franz Sirl wrote:
> 
> > I use kvt :-). Actually I don't like konsole very much. It completely lacks
> > utmp/wtmp handling (might be a good idea to integrate utmp.c from kvt into
> > konsole, it's one of the cleanest multiplatform utmp implementations I've seen)
> > and I simply don't need most features.
> 
> utmp support is only needed by a few aged programs which have obsolete
> assumptions about their environment. These are, and the list should be
> complete: who(1), finger(1), talk(1), write(1), wall(1).
> 
> You can (and should stamp your utmp) via sessreg(1x) in kdm(1k).
> 
> [If you have xterm, kvt, konsole, linux consoles and other programs
> stamp your utmp, to which one would you write to? Or do you love to
> mesg(1) a lot?]
> 
> Who and finger are already handled by sessreg.
> (Allowing to finger is commonly considered a security hole.)
> talk might by done via ktalkd.
> 
> Leaves write/wall. True, Franz, a trivial program listening on a pty which
> is registered via sessreg for writes and popping up whenever something
> comes in, is missing. But this has nothing to do with konsole, since
> terminal emulation capabilities are not needed for this purpose, so i didn't
> include utmp support at all into konsole.
> 
> I can well image environments where write/wall is intensively used
> (e.g. a windows nt system (finally matured to multisessions) with a
> lot of terminals attached to it where the operator hourly announces
> to reboot ;), so i could add such a kwrited proggy to the konsole sources.
> 
BTW: I added utempter support which gives you utmp entries for RH and
COL.
I'm sure, this library will be soon standard in Linux distributions and
then
you get your utmp entries back :)

Greetings, Stephan

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