Okay, I've been trying to get kde 1.1.2 w/ qt 2.00, etc installed, and, it's dying............. my last try got me this: checking for usleep... yes checking for setenv... (cached) yes checking for getdomainname... yes checking for gethostname... yes checking for random... (cached) yes checking for S_ISSOCK... yes checking for the third argument of getsockname... (cached) size_t checking for MICO... /usr/local checking for MICO version... 2.2.7 (minimum version 2.2.7, ok) checking if we use mico's mini-STL... yes configure: error: compile mico with --disable-mini-stl Any suggestions? I'm stepping back to qt 1.42 & kde 1.1.1 Van ========================================================================= Linux rocks!!! www.dedserius.com =========================================================================