From kde-devel  Tue May 25 03:52:09 1999
From: Mosfet <mosfet () jorsm ! com>
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 03:52:09 +0000
To: kde-devel
Subject: Re: K abiword port
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On Mon, 24 May 1999, Kurt Granroth wrote:
> Alex Zepeda wrote:
> > On Sun, 23 May 1999, Andreas Pour wrote:
> > > The problem here is not marketing but the development model:  there has no
> > > "stable"/beta release of KOffice AFAIK.
> > 
> > FWIW, Linux and Gtk+ both are constantly moving targets and have been
> > reasonably successful.  It is mainly IMO a question of marketing, not
> > stable releases.
> 
> Andreas is on the right track.  Don't confuse "stable" with "compileable" (is
> that a word?).  Linux and Gtk+ HAVE been moving targets.. but they release
> their code on a regular basis and it always (at least in the case of Linux..
> not sure about Gtk+) compiles and runs!
> 
> We have *never* released a version of KOffice!  Snapshots don't count -- they
> are no better than CVS.
> 
> IMO, putting KOffice on a regular release schedule is an absolute MUST.
> However, this is incredibly hard to do now that it has been ported to KDE2.
> To get users to try KOffice, they need to
> 
> a) get Qt 2.0 (several megs)
> b) get mico 2.2.6 (more megs)
> c) get kdelibs2 (more megs)
> d) get koffice (more megs)
> 
> Moving KOffice to KDE2 right now was a huge mistake.  If it had remained
> dependant on 1.1.1 until 2.0 was reasonably stable, then all users would need
> would be

Maybe taking a short term view this is true, but KOffice 1.0 will not be
released on KDE1.1.1, it will be released with KDE2.0. Holding off the porting
until the KDE CVS is stable would only delay the 1.0 release. While it
certainly has made KOffice more stable in the short term, developing for
KDE1.1.1 is a dead-end.

> 
> a) mico 2.2.x
> b) koffice
> 
> They would already have a working qt and kdelibs!
> 
> As it is now, KOffice is a very beautiful and powerful and is leagues ahead of
> any other open source office package... but is also functional vaporware.
> -- 
> Kurt Granroth            | granroth@kde.org
> KDE Developer/Evangelist | http://www.pobox.com/~kurt_granroth
>          KDE -- Putting a Friendly Face on Linux
--
Daniel M. Duley - Unix developer & sys admin.
mosfet@kde.org
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