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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: installwatch
From:       Herwin Jan Steehouwer <herwinjs () palet ! nl>
Date:       1998-10-02 13:20:25
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On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Yannai A. Gonczarowski wrote:

TANX, so there already is such programm, so i don't have to create one...

I was thinking of a programm that can remotly install KDE apps on another
system ?

btw when will there be a snapshot ??

TANX

herwin Jan

> Well, there is such a program in development.
> Antal Novak (afn@weevil.net) and myself are currently finishing up the first
> release of KISS - the KDE Installation SyStem. We hope to release it in the
> following week.
> 
> What is KISS?
> Kiss contains perl functions and a command-line utility to access the Kiss
> database.
> 
> Why not use Rpm/Pkg/Deb/...?
> KDE is multiplatform. This means that we can not depend on any
> platform-dependant package handling system to exist on the computer.
> 
> The Kiss database holds entries for all KDE programs on the system,
> organized according to their K-menu sections (it's a tree with sections like
> "Applications", "Utilities", "Multimedia", etc...).
> The Kiss database, when uninstalling, cleans the files used by the program
> only if they are not used by any other program and cleans empty directories.
> This is necessary, since all KDE programs are installed in the same
> directory (KDEDIR, usually /opt/kde).
> 
> Kiss should be on every computer that uses KDE. It is our hope that it will
> be added to the base KDE package as soon as it becomes stable. We plan to
> add support for Kiss packages to a kcontrol module or to another KDE package
> management program.
> 
> 
> The counterpart of Kiss, Krumple, is the package generator. It accepts the
> tgz file based on kexample as an argument, and produces a self installing
> archive. This makes it easy to port any KDE package to a kiss installer in a
> few seconds.
> Krumple is still under development and we hope complete it in the near
> future.
> 
> What is so special about this archive?
> Since KDE is multiplatform, the archive is written in Perl, and will execute
> from any modern unix system. The archive will compile the program on the
> user's computer before installing it, thus eliminating the need for
> platform-specific packages. Everything is done in a graphical environment
> with progress bars (very similar to install-shield). For people who still
> like to do their own configure, make, and make install, the archive when
> activated with the correct command line option will reconstruct the original
> tgz file.
> We hope that these archives will replace the source tgz files on
> ftp.kde.org/.../apps shortly after krumple's completion.
> 
> As you can see, there is little point in developing another
> installshield-like app since this one is almost finished.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Yannai.
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Yannai A. Gonczarowski    System Administrator    yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il
> The Hebrew University High School    http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/~yannaigo/
> 
> Si vis pacem, para bellum
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Herwin Jan Steehouwer wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Hans Petter Bieker wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Herwin Jan Steehouwer wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was thinking of a KInstallWatch program that can install and remove .tgz
> > > > archives and programms.
> > 
> > Ok let me explain !
> > 
> > I want to make a 'installshield' like programm for KDE. i want it to make
> > ik based on installWatch 0.5.1 . With the programm you can
> > configure, compile and install source tar balls... and make a log from
> > where you can uninstall the programm...
> > 
> > later you must be able to make also rpm and dep files ! ( this is what the
> > maintainer of installWatch wants !
> > 
> > Herwin Jan
> > 
> > >
> > > What's the point?
> > >
> > > -bieker-
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > ---
> > Herwin Jan Steehouwer
> >    herwinjs@palet.nl           http://www.caiw.nl/~herwinjs
> >    steehouwer@kde.org        KDE developer http://www.kde.org
> 
> 

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Herwin Jan Steehouwer
   herwinjs@palet.nl           http://www.caiw.nl/~herwinjs
   steehouwer@kde.org        KDE developer http://www.kde.org

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