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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: "Gardening" old bugreports
From:       Laurent Montel <montel () kde ! org>
Date:       2023-01-19 6:07:02
Message-ID: 2942187.iiddztPGxr () localhost ! localdomain
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Hi,
For pim* it's ok for me.
We have a very old bug, but pim* changed a lot.
Or some apps are dead (blogilo etc.)
A lot of bug report are duplicated or obsolete.

Thanks for doing it.
Regards

Le jeudi 19 janvier 2023, 04:04:45 CET Justin a écrit :
> Hi Nicolas,
> 
> This has been discussed with Nate Graham directly who has approved this
> cleanup of Bugzilla including the messaging behind it.
> 
> I am happy to discuss any concerns that people have around this. I
> understand Krita requested we exclude them from any gardening and that
> has been done, however this is the only feedback I have received.
> 
> The gardening team aims to find out if the bug reports are still
> relevant by involving the users who reported them in determining if they
> are still valid. This increases community involvement and helps KDE as
> there isn't anywhere near enough manpower to review the thousands upon
> thousands of bugs that haven't been touched in years.
> 
> The bugs that we are interacting with are ones that have not had any
> activity for over 2 years. We are simply trying to reinvigorate
> discussion on those bugs to see if they are still valid. If the user
> does not reply within the standard 30 day period after a bug is set to
> NEEDSINFO, it is automatically closed by the Bug Janitor.
> 
> I am not simply closing bugs, so I do take offense that care is not applied.
> 
> I will halt it until it is approved by more developers. However if it is
> decided that it isn't wanted then the KDE as a whole will need to entice
> more people in sorting old bugs individually as it is clearly not a
> priority right now for the majority.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Justin
> 
> On 19/1/23 11:05, Nicolas Fella wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > can we please put the effort of "gardening" old bugreports on hold until
> > we figured out whether this is actually something we want to do? Several
> > people already expressed concerns about this.
> > 
> > Improperly applied such mass changes can do more harm than good. We may
> > close bugreports that are actually still useful just because nobody
> > replied on then in a relatively short timeframe.
> > 
> > Properly cleaning up old bugreports is important. However, it requires
> > some level of care and expertise to judge whether a bugreport is still
> > useful. Judging by the volume of bugreports that is pinged with the same
> > copy&paste message this care is not  applied here.
> > 
> > At minimum such initiatives should be announced and discussed before
> > doing them, to allow people to give their input on the proposal. I am
> > not aware of any such announcement/discussion.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Nicolas


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