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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: Could we enable Travis-CI on our github mirrors?
From:       Teo Mrnjavac <teo () kde ! org>
Date:       2016-04-21 5:56:25
Message-ID: 3035282.ANJNmqIc8H () serenia
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On giovedì 21 aprile 2016 00:07:23 CEST Elvis Angelaccio wrote:
> 2016-04-20 23:20 GMT+02:00 Albert Astals Cid <aacid@kde.org>:
> > El dimecres, 20 d'abril de 2016, a les 23:00:26 CEST, Elvis Angelaccio va
> > 
> > escriure:
> > > 2016-04-20 22:09 GMT+02:00 Albert Astals Cid <aacid@kde.org>:
> > > > El dimecres, 20 d'abril de 2016, a les 18:42:31 CEST, Elvis Angelaccio
> > 
> > va
> > 
> > > > escriure:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > as many of you already know, KDE has a github mirror in place at
> > > > > [1].
> > > > > I've been playing with travis-ci [2] and I was surprised by how easy
> > 
> > to
> > 
> > > > use
> > > > 
> > > > > and how well integrated with github is.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think it would be nice to have travis builds for the (mirrored)
> > > > > repositories that provides a .travis.yml configuration file. The
> > 
> > builds
> > 
> > > > > would run on the travis servers, so no additional overload on the
> > > > > KDE
> > > > > infrastructure. There is also virtually nothing to do for KDE
> > 
> > sysadmins.
> > 
> > > > > The project's maintainer is the one in charge to setup the travis
> > > > > configuration file (if he wants to), in order to have working
> > > > > builds.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Would this be possible from a technical p.o.v.? I think the KDE
> > 
> > github
> > 
> > > > > account would have to register on the travis website and "sync" its
> > > > 
> > > > github
> > > > 
> > > > > repositories - that's what I had to do with my personal github
> > 
> > account.
> > 
> > > > > The use cases could be many. For example, on travis I can install
> > > > 
> > > > optional
> > > > 
> > > > > dependencies that are not available on our Jenkins installation.
> > > > > More
> > > > > details in this post [3].
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > What do you think?
> > > > 
> > > > I don't see the point in having two CI systems, just help improve the
> > 
> > one
> > 
> > > > we
> > > > have.
> > > > 
> > > > If you need dependencies, why did you start a new CI system instead of
> > > > asking
> > > > for the dependendies to be installed?
> > > 
> > > Well I did ask, but those deps are not available in the Ubuntu
> > 
> > repositories
> > 
> > > currently used by Jenkins.
> > > Maybe a solution could be to install them from source/manually, but that
> > > requires work from the sysadmins, who have already enough in their
> > > plate.
> > 
> > I see. Maybe you can offer to help them?
> 
> Not sure I have enough skills (especially now that we use docker), but I
> can ceirtainly try. Should I contact Ben?
> 
> > > I did not start a new CI, I was basically playing with travis for fun.
> > 
> > But
> > 
> > > then it turned out that it could solve an issue I have. The travis
> > > infrastrucure is already there, why not use it if one or more projects
> > > could benefit? Seems a win-win to me.
> > 
> > As a release team member i won't look at the github CI
> > 
> > I will look at our official one, but you will look at the github one since
> > for
> > you "it's better"
> 
> I never said it's better. I think it would be a nice addition, doesn't mean
> that I would stop looking at our main CI
> 
> > I can see this creating problems, like for example build.kde.org passing
> > and
> > githubCI not passing and you getting mad at me because we released
> > something
> > that doesn't work.

Can we call things as they are please? The name is "Travis CI", not 
"githubCI". Travis CI is open source, a separate product and service that 
happens to talk to GitHub.

And why would anyone get mad? With what Elvis proposed, KDE CI would stay the 
main CI solution for all KDE projects.

> 
> This is a fair point, but see also my previous reply to Luca (the "who
> cares" part).
> I can promise you that I won't get mad at you, fwiw :)
> 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> >   Albert
> >   
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > 
> > > >   Albert
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Elvis
> > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Elvis
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > [1]: https://github.com/KDE
> > > > > [2]: https://travis-ci.org/
> > 
> > > > > [3]:
> > http://www.aelog.org/travis-ci-builds-of-kde-projects-on-archlinux-chroot/


-- 
Teo Mrnjavac
http://teom.org | teo@kde.org
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