--===============7714738066318703111== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart8181883.YIXtRd32GY"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" --nextPart8181883.YIXtRd32GY Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Wednesday 04 February 2015 22:15:54 Vasily Khoruzhick wrote: > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Milian Wolff wrote:= > > "Every application"? You mention two. >=20 > Well, at least these two are affected. I can also mention tuxguitar > which uses Java and SWT, however I don't care about its tray icon. >=20 > > And if they, or others, don't care about > >=20 > > us, why should we go out of our way to care for them? >=20 > I think I already explained that. KDE is a software platform, and if > you care about users, you should care > about compatibility with any application, even proprietary. I find it really sad to see people blaming us for not caring about our = users.=20 That's quite a heavy blow, considering the amount of time I invested to= ensure=20 that Qt 5 applications get a drop in replacement for the system tray.=20= Considering the time I spent to inform distributions several months a-h= ead of=20 the change to get them do their packaging right. Considering that I wro= te the=20 blog post you linked. I think it should show enough that we did care ab= out our=20 users to ensure everything works will, including providing work around=20= solutions if it doesn't. Of course I'm not happy that proprieatary Qt 5 applications do not work= , but=20 you can hardly blame us for it or demand that we write code to get clos= ed=20 source software integrated. To make it quite clear: I will not invest a= minute=20 of work to get dropbox client work, if all that's needed for dropbox is= fixing=20 their packaging (skype can do it, right?). If that is a problem for you= =20 consider using free software alternatives like owncloud. =2D- Martin Gr=C3=A4=C3=9Flin --nextPart8181883.YIXtRd32GY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEABECAAYFAlTTICMACgkQqVXwidMiVrrCxACfTmi+vxIglyOdHxdrYZvy9gEy zVUAniZzh7xiM3eh0sJjiMnBH0r62CnZ =KYKe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart8181883.YIXtRd32GY-- --===============7714738066318703111== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to unsubscribe << --===============7714738066318703111==--