On T= ue, Jul 1, 2014 at 4:45 AM, Ian Wadham <iandw.au@gmail.com>= wrote:

Hi Sune,

Thanks for replying, Sune.

On 30/06/2014, at 11:37 PM, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> On 2014-06-28, Ian Wadham <ia= ndw.au@gmail.com> wrote:

>> When fixing some bugs in the KCrash-DrKonqi = sequence on Apple OS X,
>> I have come to a point where Dr Konqi attempts to call kded4, usin= g DBus,
>> and issues a message "Failed to communicate with kded. Make s= ure it is running."
>
> In the kdelibs4.x-age, yes. kded should be running all the time no mat= ter what.

In Linux and a KDE desktop manager, that is fine: kded4 is part of th= e structure
of a KDE desktop manager. =C2=A0But in Apple OS X (or other desktop manager= s), that
should not be a requirement, if KDE is to be truly portable.

Other desktop managers have their own ways of handling directory and file c= hanges,
battery level updates, device mounts, software update registration or whate= ver. =C2=A0So
maybe kded4 is not really needed at all on such platforms.

In particular, the absence of kded4 should not prevent a user from reportin= g
a crash in a KDE application on Apple OS X or any other desktop manager, should it? =C2=A0I don't think *anything* should prevent that=E2=80=A6 = :-)

I do not think it is reasonable to ask the MacPorts developers to include kded4 in startup procedures for every user, on the off chance that he or she will use a KDE app sometime and that app will crash.

So I will proceed to patch around the requirement for kded4 in Dr Konqi in<= br> Apple OS X, unless someone has a better idea or can point out some more
frequent and vital need for kded4 in a non-KDE desktop manager.

> Unfortunately, it isn't refcounting its users so it is running lik= e forever.

Cheers, Ian W.

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Yes, I = agree that with portability in mind, requiring a kded running with some ser= vices kills the mood quite a bit.

Patches are welcome indeed, although I wonder wh= ether it wouldn't be interesting to look into this on KF5 already, but = maybe it just doesn't make a difference.

Aleix

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