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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: icon flag question
From:       John Layt <jlayt () kde ! org>
Date:       2014-05-22 14:04:15
Message-ID: CAM1DM6maERhbTXOnGG+nRPMV_MMjmVcfOD3QqWWP=E9JXCpaBQ () mail ! gmail ! com
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On 22 May 2014 11:52, Sebastian Kügler <sebas@kde.org> wrote:
> On Thursday, May 22, 2014 07:45:55 you wrote:
>> Thanks for your answer and sorry for the delayed response.
>> According to
>> http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/latest/ar01s02.html the
>> flags should be afaik in  /usr/share/icons/$theme/intl and I would feel it
>> more natural if it was there. Any special reason they're in a different
>> place?
>
> I'm not privvy with details, but I'd assume it's part of the locale, and you
> can have different locales installed and not installed. It makes sense to keep
> the data in one place for that reason.

Probably because the KDE locales and flags date back to long before
the icon naming standard was drafted in 2005.  Also because the icon
naming standard assumes you have different flag icons for every icon
theme, and the ones we have in locale are tiny 21x14px un-themed
default flags designed to be used in selection lists and not as icons.
 To put them under /usr/share/icons/$theme/intl would require I guess
Oxygen to ship Oxygen styled flags, i.e. another 200+ icons to be
drawn and then scaled at the different sizes.

Note that in KF5 the flags are deprecated, as are the locales, and so
have moved into /use/share/kf5/locale/countries/$code/flag.png.

We've long discussed the proper way of handling flags, one suggestion
was to have a set of SVG base files that themed styles could be
applied to, or that could be dynamically scaled as required, but I
think people were worried about performance issues (as was with using
SVG icons in general).  We do need to decide a proper way forward for
KF5, I have been contemplating whether to include a default set in my
new KStandards / KCodes framework for ISO codes, but am shying away
from that as it would make it very large.  We probably either need a
separate KFlags framework, or to ensure the new Plasma default icon
set includes a full set (possibly generated by script from an
un-styled SVG file?).

Cheers!

John.

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