Hi Ian, thanks for your initiative!!! I am not a software engineer - but just a Linux/MacOSX hobby-coder - and si= nce 4 years I am trying to keep KMyMoney (KMM) alive on MacOSX via MacPorts= during my spare time [0]. That=92s how the two of us initially got to know= each other! :-) =97=97=97=97=97 INSET =97=97=97=97=97 = Well, here I simple MUST mention that I always had A LOT OF GREAT SUPPORT f= rom the KMM developers whenever I ran into trouble getting KMM to build on = MacPorts. For the last four years I was running MacOSX 10.6.x and since a q= uarter of a year I am using MacOSX 10.9.x - successfully building KMM 4.6.x= and almost always at master=92s HEAD! :-) When I started using MacOSX four years ago there was KMM 1.0.3 available (s= till using KDE3) since someone else had created a functional port for it on= MacPorts. :) That and the KMM devs helped me a lot setting up a new port for KMM 4.5 in = Nov 2010! :-D After a while I switched over to keep my finances under control only by KMM= 4.x! =97=97=97=97=97 INSET =97=97=97=97=97 = Well, but just you, mention there are again and again little problems with = the underlying KDE framework. Luckily there were and up to now are very active MacPorts maintainers who t= ried/try to keep kdelibs3 and kdelibs4 afloat on MacOSX via the MacPorts po= rt system. Thank god!!! To my horror I=92ve seen already two maintainers give up on kdelibs4 in the= past four years, which is a shame and very sad. I - personally - would find it very sad if KMM would disappear because of K= DE dropping support for MacOSX!!! So, I hope that this initiative might be a spark which motivates more peopl= e to get involved here. I have - just like you, Ian - tried TO FIND help here on KDE-DEVEL (as well= as on KDE-MAC) all these years and I was grateful for every hint I got - g= iven the low number of MacOSX users to be found in there. Whenever I find a bug in KMM or KDE I DO TRY TO PIN IT DOWN as much as poss= ible and address it to the relevant bug reporters on https://bugs.kde.org (= e.g. open [2,3]) or https://bugreports.qt-project.org (e.g. open [4,5]). A most annoying bug is related to meinproc4 [6] (as you, Ian, already menti= oned) which is bugging me on MacPorts with KMM and other KDE-apps since yea= rs. But unfortunately it shows a very indeterministic behaviour and I could= n=92t come forward there. Only in Dec 2013 / Jan 2014 there was finally mov= ement, but I haven=92t yet followed that up=85 I could grab my own nose and try to investigate what had been changed there= to find out whether other apps would build without this annoyance from now= on, like e.g. KMM! :-/ =97=97>>> Would be a good thing to start with,= I guess. 8-) =97=97=97=97=97 NOTE =97=97=97=97=97 = I am deliberately listing all those references to show that there are peopl= e trying their best, and I am not the only one on MacPorts, Homebrew, Fink,= etc. That shall be enough in response to what has been uttered in this lis= t=92s thread =93What to test for 4.13" and I don=92t want to put more oil i= nto the fire but rather like to calm the waves and come to a constructive l= evel. I - for my part - will always try to contribute as best as I can and = as I have done in the past to KDE, KMM and also wxWidgets as another exampl= e [7]. =97=97=97=97=97 NOTE =97=97=97=97=97 = On 11 Mar 2014, at 04:15 , Ian Wadham wrote: > I need some ongoing help, advice and mentoring from time to > time as I investigate why some KDE apps run OK on Apple > OS X and others do not. The problem is simply stated. So would I. > Most KDE apps build and run well in Apple OS X. The difficult > ones are the more complex ones --- and the ones that are in > demand from Apple users --- such as Digikam, Kdenlive, > KDevelop and Amarok. I have recently only tested kdenlive myself - and it works!!! :-) = > The case of kbuildsysoca4 is a good example. Yes, indeed, luckily the kdelibs4 port since then installs a user launch ag= ent which takes care of running kbuildsyscoca4 periodically to avoid most o= f the trouble. > But I need help, guidance and mentoring as I dive into > KDE internals. Any offers will be gratefully accepted. Dito. For completeness I want to add, that I try with scrooge to maintain also an= other alternative financial KDE-application on MacPorts [8]. Best regards to all devs on this list, Marko =97=97=97 References [0] http://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=3Dname&substr=3Dkmymoney [1] Thread "[Kmymoney2-developer] SUCCESS: v4.5 runs on Mac OS X=94 @ 2 N= ov 2010 [2] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D279194 [3] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D316404 [4] https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-19873 [5] https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-32943 [6] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D261509 [7] http://trac.wxwidgets.org/ticket/15345 [8] http://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=3Dname&substr=3Dskrooge >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to unsubscrib= e <<