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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: Network Applet
From:       Kåre_Särs <kare.sars () iki ! fi>
Date:       2013-10-20 21:25:38
Message-ID: 2176999.4pL9EMJAGA () sars-ux32vd
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Hi,

On Sunday 20 October 2013 14:10:21 Jan Grulich wrote:
> Dne 20.10.2013 12:18, Reindl Harald napsal(a):
> > Am 20.10.2013 11:59, schrieb Jan Grulich:
> >>> * allow more than one connection to be expanded at a time
> >> 
> >> I don't think is necessary to allow more than one connection to be
> >> expanded, because mostly you are connected only via one connection (or
> >> only one is default route)
> > 
> > says who?
> > 
> > yes, the machine below is a Fedora KDE-Workstation and even with a simple
> > setup when VPN is a topic you have no longer one default route for all
> 
> I said mostly and even if you are using VPN connections, 99% of users
> would have expanded only one connection to see the traffic monitor. And
> I expect when you want to use some technical stuff, you won't use KDE NM
> applet for that.

Why limit the number of expanded items? What is the gain? I do not have as 
extreme situation as the example below, but I have two networks at the same 
time at work. One for internal testing and the other for the company wide 
network. I definitely see a use-case for expanding more than one connection. 

KDE NM has been more than enough for that so far ;)

Thanks for porting to QML!

/Kåre

> 
> > my understanding of KDE is "for powerusers" and not for the
> > simple "that is my network cable" alone
> > ______________________________________
> > 
> > [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ route -n | wc -l
> > 12
> > 
> > br0    = WLAN/LAN Brdige
> > br1    = Gust-WLAN/Virtual Device
> > eth0   = LAN
> > eth1   = WAN
> > eth2   = Virtual Devbice for Gust-WLAN-Bridge
> > tap0   = OpenVPN
> > vmnet8 = VMware NAT
> > wlan0  = Personal WLAN
> > waln1  = Guest WLAN
> > 
> > br0: flags=4675<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,ALLMULTI,MULTICAST>  mtu 1500
> > 
> >          inet 192.168.7.2  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 192.168.7.255
> >          ether 24:be:05:1a:c0:27  txqueuelen 0  (Ethernet)
> >          RX packets 16455  bytes 3459475 (3.2 MiB)
> >          RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
> >          TX packets 13284  bytes 6685829 (6.3 MiB)
> >          TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
> > 
> > br1: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>  mtu 1500
> > 
> >          inet 192.168.10.1  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast
> >          192.168.10.255
> >          ether 28:10:7b:ca:be:52  txqueuelen 0  (Ethernet)
> >          RX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
> >          RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
> >          TX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
> >          TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
> > 
> > eth0: flags=4419<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,MULTICAST>  mtu 1500
> > 
> >          ether 24:be:05:1a:c0:27  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
> >          RX packets 13183  bytes 3289640 (3.1 MiB)
> >          RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
> >          TX packets 10200  bytes 3934711 (3.7 MiB)
> >          TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
> >          device interrupt 20  memory 0xf7e00000-f7e20000
> > 
> > eth1: flags=67<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING>  mtu 1500
> > 
> >          inet **.**.**.**  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast
> >          255.255.255.255
> >          ether 00:50:8d:b5:cc:de  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
> >          RX packets 9056524  bytes 10416431487 (9.7 GiB)
> >          RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
> >          TX packets 6900996  bytes 1563347260 (1.4 GiB)
> >          TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
> >          device interrupt 16  memory 0xf7cc0000-f7ce0000
> > 
> > eth2: flags=4355<UP,BROADCAST,PROMISC,MULTICAST>  mtu 1500
> > 
> >          ether da:a5:3f:9c:d0:19  txqueuelen 500  (Ethernet)
> >          RX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
> >          RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
> >          TX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
> >          TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
> > 
> > tap0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>  mtu 1444
> > 
> >          inet 192.168.8.241  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast
> >          192.168.8.255
> >          ether 5a:27:d8:c7:7e:cc  txqueuelen 500  (Ethernet)
> >          RX packets 897500  bytes 376796062 (359.3 MiB)
> >          RX errors 0  dropped 16308  overruns 0  frame 0
> >          TX packets 983016  bytes 491210698 (468.4 MiB)
> >          TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
> > 
> > vmnet8: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>  mtu 1500
> > 
> >          inet 192.168.196.1  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast
> >          192.168.196.255
> >          ether 00:50:56:c0:00:08  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
> >          RX packets 164721  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
> >          RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
> >          TX packets 565701  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
> >          TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
> > 
> > wlan0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>  mtu 1500
> > 
> >          ether 28:10:7b:ca:be:51  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
> >          RX packets 3269  bytes 452877 (442.2 KiB)
> >          RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
> >          TX packets 8406  bytes 3612636 (3.4 MiB)
> >          TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
> > 
> > wlan1: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>  mtu 1500
> > 
> >          ether 28:10:7b:ca:be:52  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
> >          RX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
> >          RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
> >          TX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
> >          TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
> 
> Jan
> 
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