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Subject: Re: Dependency Freeze for 4.11 in 4 days
From: Vishesh Handa <me () vhanda ! in>
Date: 2013-05-30 9:21:31
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On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid@kde.org> wrote:
> El Dijous, 30 de maig de 2013, a les 03:53:00, Vishesh Handa va escriure:
> > Hey Albert
> >
> > Soprano usually has an exception to this rule, just like Akonadi.
> Can/Does
> > this exception extend to the Shared Desktop Ontologies as well?
>
> Sincerely, i'd like to have less exceptions not more, in my opinion we
> shouldn't give soprano nor akonadi that exception either, it just goes to
> increase the false impresion that those are "kdelibs-only software".
>
> Besides as a regular user having our latest releases depend on bleeding
> edge
> soprano, akonadi and SDO is a pain, I don't want to be forced to build a
> new
> soprano to build kdelibs or nepomuk.
>
> That coupling we have in that area worries me a bit, are APIs and/or
> behaviour
> changing that much in those libraries that we absolutely need to use a
> library
> released the same day to make sure it works?
>
Well, for SDO, the same day is not required, but I need to fix some more
bugs and then release a new version.
We have an Okular that builds against poppler 0.12 and up, that's 6 major
> versions, obviously you don't get all the new features if you use an old
> poppler, but stuff still works.
>
If it makes you feel any better, I will most probably be dropping Soprano
for frameworks5. So, that'll be only less dependency.
I might even be able to drop the whole redland dependency in Nepomuk soon.
> Of course this is a rant, your question can only be answer with a "sure,
> why
> not", since you obviously realized that you totally need something that's
> not
> there on old SDO and you don't have a release yet.
>
Thanks
>
> Cheers.
> Albert
>
> >
> > On 25 May 2013 18:20, "Albert Astals Cid" <aacid@kde.org> wrote:
> > > Dependency freeze for 4.11 releases is in 4 days (May 29th), please be
> > > sure you update all the needed dependencies before that date.
> > >
> > > Notorious dependencies we might want to discuss:
> > > * kde-runtime depends on kdelibs 4.10.0 (4.9.95)
> > > * kde-baseapps depends on kdelibs 4.10.2
> > > * kde-workspace depends on kdelibs 4.9.4
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Albert
> > >
> > > >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to
> > >
> > > unsubscribe <<
>
> >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to
> unsubscribe <<
>
--
Vishesh Handa
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<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, \
May 30, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Albert Astals Cid <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:aacid@kde.org" target="_blank">aacid@kde.org</a>></span> wrote:<br> \
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">El Dijous, 30 de maig de 2013, a les 03:53:00, Vishesh Handa \
va escriure:<br> <div class="im">> Hey Albert<br>
><br>
> Soprano usually has an exception to this rule, just like Akonadi. Can/Does<br>
> this exception extend to the Shared Desktop Ontologies as well?<br>
<br>
</div>Sincerely, i'd like to have less exceptions not more, in my opinion we<br>
shouldn't give soprano nor akonadi that exception either, it just goes to<br>
increase the false impresion that those are "kdelibs-only software".<br>
<br>
Besides as a regular user having our latest releases depend on bleeding edge<br>
soprano, akonadi and SDO is a pain, I don't want to be forced to build a new<br>
soprano to build kdelibs or nepomuk.<br>
<br>
That coupling we have in that area worries me a bit, are APIs and/or behaviour<br>
changing that much in those libraries that we absolutely need to use a library<br>
released the same day to make sure it \
works?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Well, for SDO, the same day is not \
required, but I need to fix some more bugs and then release a new \
version.<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
We have an Okular that builds against poppler 0.12 and up, that's 6 major<br>
versions, obviously you don't get all the new features if you use an old<br>
poppler, but stuff still works.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>If it makes you \
feel any better, I will most probably be dropping Soprano for frameworks5. So, \
that'll be only less dependency.<br><br></div><div>I might even be able to drop \
the whole redland dependency in Nepomuk soon.<br> <br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> Of course this is a rant, your question can only be answer \
with a "sure, why<br> not", since you obviously realized that you totally \
need something that's not<br> there on old SDO and you don't have a release \
yet.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks<br> <br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
Cheers.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"> Albert<br>
</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
><br>
> On 25 May 2013 18:20, "Albert Astals Cid" <<a \
href="mailto:aacid@kde.org">aacid@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br> > > Dependency \
freeze for 4.11 releases is in 4 days (May 29th), please be<br> > > sure you \
update all the needed dependencies before that date.<br> > ><br>
> > Notorious dependencies we might want to discuss:<br>
> > * kde-runtime depends on kdelibs 4.10.0 (4.9.95)<br>
> > * kde-baseapps depends on kdelibs 4.10.2<br>
> > * kde-workspace depends on kdelibs 4.9.4<br>
> ><br>
> > Cheers,<br>
> ><br>
> > Albert<br>
> ><br>
> > >> Visit <a \
href="http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub" \
target="_blank">http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub</a> to<br> > \
><br> > > unsubscribe <<<br>
<br>
>> Visit <a href="http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub" \
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unsubscribe <<<br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- \
<br><span style="color:rgb(192,192,192)">Vishesh Handa</span><br> </div></div>
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