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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: Disabling Oxygen's window dragging for specific QWidgets?
From:       Hugo Pereira Da Costa <hugo () oxygen-icons ! org>
Date:       2011-05-19 6:09:47
Message-ID: 4DD4B42B.40105 () oxygen-icons ! org
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On 05/19/2011 06:41 AM, Christoph Cullmann wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 18. Mai 2011, 00:41:40 schrieb David Jarvie:
>> On Tuesday 17 May 2011 19:33:15 Christoph Cullmann wrote:
>>> Am Dienstag, 17. Mai 2011, 19:03:41 schrieb Albert Astals Cid:
>>>> A Tuesday, May 17, 2011, Martin Gräßlin va escriure:
>>>>> @all: please keep the emotions out of this thread and be
>>>>> constructive. I offered a possible solution for the "problem"
>>>>> yesterday and nobody seems to be interested in actually improving
>>>>> the situation, instead it seems like some serious discussion for the
>>>>> sake of discussion is going on. This is really discouraging and I
>>>>> want everyone to start being constructive again!
>>>> I think the constructive suggestion was already given before everyone
>>>> started throwing knives.
>>>>
>>>> Change the default to only drag from "safe places" (i.e. toolbar and
>>>> status bar), let the user select if he wants to drag from the "non
>>>> safe places" with a warning that tells him that that setting might
>>>> cause conflicts with some applications.
>>> +1
>> +1
> Guess our arguments or solution are not considered, if you look at the
> following ideas in that thread :(
>
Dear Christoph, others,

I aknowledge the suggestion above (and the fact it has already been made 
in that thread), and have already expressed the fact that I disagree 
with it.

The reason for this disagreement is that I fail to see the actual 
"conflicts" mentionned both in the suggestion and as a justification for 
it. What I have seen instead in this thread is normal behavior of both 
oxygen and the applications, without any actual functionality loss, and 
some users being annoyed by this behavior. To me this does not justify a 
change of the default settings.

(on the other hand it does justify that the ability to change this 
default value is made more easily available to users, which has now been 
committed).

I also said already that I would back off my position if Nuno disagrees 
with me, but unfortunately Nuno is not even aware of this discussion, 
because (as Martin already pointed out), it is not happening on the 
right mailing list, (and does not have the right title, for that matter).

Hugo

Side note: actual "conflicts" between oxygen and applications, for which 
the window-drag ability would result in functionality loss on the 
application side, must be fixed (and have been, for the ones i am aware 
of), no matter what the default value for the window drag mode is.

> Greetings
> Christoph
>
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