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Subject: Re: Distributed Mapping Application - Idea For Season Of KDE
From: Vitor Boschi <vitorboschi () gmail ! com>
Date: 2011-04-27 11:03:31
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Actually, Google can use information about which wifi access points (and/or
cell towers in case of mobile phones) your computer see and provide a very
precise location guess based on this. You could try this method too.
Vitor
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Naman Muley <naman.g.muley@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Rohan Garg <rohangarg@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Naman
>>
> Hi Rohan,
>
>> Actually, Google has a bunch of methods to extract your current location,
>> and for desktops, it works best using the IP assigned to your computer (
>> since most PC's don't have a GPS module ).
>>
> Yeah, and they become pretty lame when trying to work to find out the
> location inside a campus. This is exactly what I want to make. Google
> Latitude can get your location exactly only unto your ISP router. That is
> why they have kept 3 granularity levels i think, country city or something.
> (I tried it some time back). Basically it shows the location of your ISP
> router and not your own location. But I am talking about local mapping like
> inside a campus. Plus, right now, I am in DA-IICT, Gandhinagar, India.
> DA-IICT has a NAT. Everything we do, any of us, we do by the NAT address(
> which currently is 117.211.88.42) . This will restrict the granularity of my
> location to only m y NAT address. I want to find my locaiton inside the
> campus. For that I use pretty much the same method that Google Latitude
> uses, but on the internal architecture of my campus. ( For e.g. DA-IICT has
> 4 main routers, hostel, faculty, library and Lab). consisting of routers and
> sub-routers.
>
> Rohan Garg
>
> Yours,
> Naman
>
>> On Apr 27, 2011 3:43 AM, "Naman Muley" <naman.g.muley@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > HI Valentin,
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:58 PM, Valentin Rusu <kde@rusu.info> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> On 04/26/2011 01:15 PM, Naman Muley wrote:
>> >> > Overall, if you have seen Harry Potter - The Prisoner of Azkaban , I
>> >> > am talking about 'The Marauder's Map'.
>> >> Have you seen this before ?
>> >> http://www.google.com/intl/en_us/latitude/intro.html
>> >>
>> >> Yes I have. Google latitude is again a global system. It reads your
>> > latitude and longitude and puts you in that location. I am talking about
>> > making a localized application. I am thinking on how to get location
>> without
>> > the GPS. One of the ways is that I map not on a map but an abstract
>> floor
>> > and label routers by the name of the location. For e.g. John's cubicle
>> is
>> > connected to the router finance.ibm.com. along with 5 other people in
>> the
>> > finance department. Then, based on the topology that router is connected
>> to
>> > its nodes, one should be able to give a bacground-less map.
>> > finance.ibm.comis then connected to say
>>
>> > security.ibm.com which is a WAP. The security guard's phone, based on
>> the
>> > signal strength it receives should be able to create a radius of a
>> > particular distance around the WAP. The point is, if i am an employee of
>> > the HQ of IBM, I dont need to visually see on a physical map where the
>> other
>> > person is. If I am told that he is 12 mts away from the Main Gate (where
>> the
>> > WAP is) that is enough for my purposes.I dont have to see visually where
>> he
>> > is roaming. I don't know if i have convinced you of the method. PLease
>> reply
>> > with further points.
>> >
>> > Valentin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to
>> >> unsubscribe <<
>> >>
>> >
>> > yours Thinkingly,
>> > Naman
>>
>>
>> >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to
>> unsubscribe <<
>>
>>
>
>
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> unsubscribe <<
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Actually, Google can use information about which wifi access points <meta \
http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">(and/or cell towers in \
case of mobile phones) your computer see and provide a very precise location guess \
based on this. You could try this method too.<div>
<br></div><div>Vitor<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 1:20 AM, \
Naman Muley <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:naman.g.muley@gmail.com">naman.g.muley@gmail.com</a>></span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px \
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Rohan Garg <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rohangarg@ubuntu.com" \
target="_blank">rohangarg@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p>Hi Naman<br></p></blockquote><div>Hi Rohan, </div><div class="im"><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> <p>
Actually, Google has a bunch of methods to extract your current location, and for \
desktops, it works best using the IP assigned to your computer ( since most PC's \
don't have a GPS module ).</p></blockquote></div>
<div> Yeah, and they become pretty lame when trying to work to find out the location \
inside a campus. This is exactly what I want to make. Google Latitude can get your \
location exactly only unto your ISP router. That is why they have kept 3 granularity \
levels i think, country city or something. (I tried it some time back). Basically it \
shows the location of your ISP router and not your own location. But I am talking \
about local mapping like inside a campus. Plus, right now, I am in DA-IICT, \
Gandhinagar, India. DA-IICT has a NAT. Everything we do, any of us, we do by the NAT \
address( which currently is 117.211.88.42) . This will restrict the granularity of my \
location to only m y NAT address. I want to find my locaiton inside the campus. For \
that I use pretty much the same method that Google Latitude uses, but on the internal \
architecture of my campus. ( For e.g. DA-IICT has 4 main routers, hostel, faculty, \
library and Lab). consisting of routers and sub-routers. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Rohan \
Garg</div><div><br></div><div>Yours,</div><div>Naman</div><div><div></div><div \
class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px \
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Apr 27, 2011 3:43 AM, \
"Naman Muley" <<a href="mailto:naman.g.muley@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">naman.g.muley@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> HI \
Valentin,<br>
> <br>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:58 PM, Valentin Rusu <<a \
href="mailto:kde@rusu.info" target="_blank">kde@rusu.info</a>> wrote:<br> > \
<br>>> Hello,<br>>><br>>> On 04/26/2011 01:15 PM, Naman Muley \
wrote:<br>>> > Overall, if you have seen Harry Potter - The Prisoner of \
Azkaban , I<br>>> > am talking about 'The Marauder's Map'.<br>
>> Have you seen this before ?<br>>> <a \
href="http://www.google.com/intl/en_us/latitude/intro.html" \
target="_blank">http://www.google.com/intl/en_us/latitude/intro.html</a><br>>><br>>> \
Yes I have. Google latitude is again a global system. It reads your<br>
> latitude and longitude and puts you in that location. I am talking about<br>> \
making a localized application. I am thinking on how to get location without<br>> \
the GPS. One of the ways is that I map not on a map but an abstract floor<br>
> and label routers by the name of the location. For e.g. John's cubicle \
is<br>> connected to the router <a href="http://finance.ibm.com" \
target="_blank">finance.ibm.com</a>. along with 5 other people in the<br>
> finance department. Then, based on the topology that router is connected to<br>
> its nodes, one should be able to give a bacground-less map.<br></div>> \
finance.ibm.comis then connected to say<div><br>> <a \
href="http://security.ibm.com" target="_blank">security.ibm.com</a> which is a WAP. \
The security guard's phone, based on the<br>
> signal strength it receives should be able to create a radius of a<br>> \
particular distance around the WAP. The point is, if i am an employee of<br>> the \
HQ of IBM, I dont need to visually see on a physical map where the other<br>
> person is. If I am told that he is 12 mts away from the Main Gate (where \
the<br>> WAP is) that is enough for my purposes.I dont have to see visually where \
he<br>> is roaming. I don't know if i have convinced you of the method. PLease \
reply<br>
> with further points.<br>> <br>> \
Valentin<br>>><br>>><br>>> >> Visit <a \
href="http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub" \
target="_blank">http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub</a> to<br>
>> unsubscribe <<<br>>><br>> <br>> yours Thinkingly,<br>> \
Naman<br></div></div> <br><br>
>> Visit <a href="http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub" \
target="_blank">http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub</a> to \
unsubscribe <<<br> <br></blockquote></div></div></div><br>
<br><br>
>> Visit <a href="http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub" \
target="_blank">http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub</a> to \
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