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>   1. Re: Path to ksnapshot, grab last used Region. (Sebastian K?gler)
>   2. Re: Path to ksnapshot, grab last used Region. (Sebastian K?gler)
>   3. Re: Path to ksnapshot, grab last used Region. (John Tapsell)
>   4. Re: Path to ksnapshot, grab last used Region. (Tomaz Canabrava)
>   5. Re: Path to ksnapshot, grab last used Region. (Sebastian K?gler)
>   6. Re: Path to ksnapshot, grab last used Region. (Richard Moore)
>   7. Re: 3 patches to ksnapshot, with links to review board.
>      (Richard Moore)
>   8. Re: Path to ksnapshot, grab last used Region. (Aaron J. Seigo)
>   9. Re: Path to ksnapshot, grab last used Region. (Aaron J. Seigo)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:47:08 +0100
> From: Sebastian K?gler <sebas@kde.org>
> Subject: Re: Path to ksnapshot, grab last used Region.
> To: kde-devel@kde.org
> Message-ID: <201001251347.11581.sebas@kde.org>
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> On Sunday 24 January 2010 21:57:59 Richard Moore wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Tomaz Canabrava <tumaix@gmail.com>  
>> wrote:
>>> Added a new option for Grabbing the exact same rect from the last
>>> Region snapthot,
>>
>> This seems like a rather obscure thing to want to do. The aim with
>> ksnapshot has always been to keep the UI  very minimal and only cover
>> common cases. This means that a change to include a new option like
>> this is probably something I'd have to reject.
>
> Why an option? Sounds like reasonable default behaviour to me...
>
> I've just yesterday had this situation: I wanted to show a change in  
> the UI, so I'd
> snapshot, save the image, change the UI (press a button or  
> something) and snapshot
> again. I think it makes total sense to put the default selection  
> rectangle at the
> previous coordinates.
> -- 
> sebas
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:34:32 +0100
> From: Sebastian K?gler <sebas@kde.org>
> Subject: Re: Path to ksnapshot, grab last used Region.
> To: kde-devel@kde.org
> Message-ID: <201001251434.34619.sebas@kde.org>
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> On Monday 25 January 2010 14:01:36 you wrote:
>> Thanks for your comment sebas =)
>>
>> Rich, if you want I can change from option in the drop down list to a
>> check box that's only visible if the 'Region' option is selected,  
>> with
>> the 'use last region' text.
>>
>> what do you think?
>
> Rich doesn't read my email :D
>
> I personally think there should be *no* option at all.
>
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Sebastian K?gler <sebas@kde.org>  
>> wrote:
>>> On Sunday 24 January 2010 21:57:59 Richard Moore wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Tomaz Canabrava  
>>>> <tumaix@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Added a new option for Grabbing the exact same rect from the last
>>>>> Region snapthot,
>>>>
>>>> This seems like a rather obscure thing to want to do. The aim with
>>>> ksnapshot has always been to keep the UI  very minimal and only  
>>>> cover
>>>> common cases. This means that a change to include a new option like
>>>> this is probably something I'd have to reject.
>>>
>>> Why an option? Sounds like reasonable default behaviour to me...
>>>
>>> I've just yesterday had this situation: I wanted to show a change  
>>> in the
>>> UI, so I'd snapshot, save the image, change the UI (press a button  
>>> or
>>> something) and snapshot again. I think it makes total sense to put  
>>> the
>>> default selection rectangle at the previous coordinates.
> -- 
> sebas
>
> http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:46:14 +0000
> From: John Tapsell <johnflux@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Path to ksnapshot, grab last used Region.
> To: kde-devel@kde.org
> Message-ID:
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> 2010/1/25 Sebastian K?gler <sebas@kde.org>:
>> On Monday 25 January 2010 14:01:36 you wrote:
>>> Thanks for your comment sebas =)
>>>
>>> Rich, if you want I can change from option in the drop down list  
>>> to a
>>> check box that's only visible if the 'Region' option is selected,  
>>> with
>>> the 'use last region' text.
>>>
>>> what do you think?
>>
>> Rich doesn't read my email :D
>>
>> I personally think there should be *no* option at all.
>
> Same - I agree that it should be the default to just remember the last
> region selected.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:51:46 -0200
> From: Tomaz Canabrava <tumaix@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Path to ksnapshot, grab last used Region.
> To: kde-devel@kde.org
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> I think I replied just to sebas, sorry.
>
> but being no option at all,
> how could I select different regions after using the first one?
> in my patch I added a combo option 'use last rect'.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:46 AM, John Tapsell <johnflux@gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> 2010/1/25 Sebastian K?gler <sebas@kde.org>:
>>> On Monday 25 January 2010 14:01:36 you wrote:
>>>> Thanks for your comment sebas =)
>>>>
>>>> Rich, if you want I can change from option in the drop down list  
>>>> to a
>>>> check box that's only visible if the 'Region' option is selected,  
>>>> with
>>>> the 'use last region' text.
>>>>
>>>> what do you think?
>>>
>>> Rich doesn't read my email :D
>>>
>>> I personally think there should be *no* option at all.
>>
>> Same - I agree that it should be the default to just remember the  
>> last
>> region selected.
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:16:44 +0100
> From: Sebastian K?gler <sebas@kde.org>
> Subject: Re: Path to ksnapshot, grab last used Region.
> To: Tomaz Canabrava <tumaix@gmail.com>, kde-devel@kde.org
> Message-ID: <201001251516.46828.sebas@kde.org>
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> [don't forget to send email to kde-devel, I'm subscribed there]
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> On Monday 25 January 2010 14:41:47 Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
>> but being no option at all,
>> how could I select different regions after using the first one?
>> in my patch I added a combo option 'use last rect'.
>
> The rect is selected, but not 'snapshot' already. So the first time,  
> you select the
> rect, after that you only alter it to your needs (the previous rect  
> is preselected).
>
> -- 
> sebas
>
> http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:08:11 +0000
> From: Richard Moore <richmoore44@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Path to ksnapshot, grab last used Region.
> To: kde-devel@kde.org
> Message-ID:
>    <5491a5151001251308ra33588dy63ff3129dd1c8269@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Sebastian K?gler <sebas@kde.org>  
> wrote:
>> [don't forget to send email to kde-devel, I'm subscribed there]
>>
>> On Monday 25 January 2010 14:41:47 Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
>>> but being no option at all,
>>> how could I select different regions after using the first one?
>>> in my patch I added a combo option 'use last rect'.
>>
>> The rect is selected, but not 'snapshot' already. So the first  
>> time, you select the
>> rect, after that you only alter it to your needs (the previous rect  
>> is preselected).
>
> Yes, that would address my concerns. A patch implementing it would get
> my thumbs up. (I love removing options by sensible defaults).
>
> Rich.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:09:07 +0000
> From: Richard Moore <rich@kde.org>
> Subject: Re: 3 patches to ksnapshot, with links to review board.
> To: John Tapsell <johnflux@gmail.com>
> Cc: kde-devel@kde.org
> Message-ID:
>    <5491a5151001251309n61161aaem27e99d61677a6135@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi John,
>
> Yes, this is on my todo list for T4 (not strictly plasma I know, but
> I'll have some time to test it properly then).
>
> Cheers
>
> Rich.
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:40 AM, John Tapsell <johnflux@gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> Richard,
>>
>> ?Could you also have a look at my patch for adding the mouse cursor
>> in the snapshot. ?It's attached to the bug report:
>>
>> ?https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28656
>>
>> John
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:00:03 -0800
> From: "Aaron J. Seigo" <aseigo@kde.org>
> Subject: Re: Path to ksnapshot, grab last used Region.
> To: kde-devel@kde.org
> Message-ID: <201001251400.03672.aseigo@kde.org>
> Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="utf-8"
>
> On January 25, 2010, Richard Moore wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Sebastian K?gler <sebas@kde.org>  
>> wrote:
>>> [don't forget to send email to kde-devel, I'm subscribed there]
>>>
>>> On Monday 25 January 2010 14:41:47 Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
>>>> but being no option at all,
>>>> how could I select different regions after using the first one?
>>>> in my patch I added a combo option 'use last rect'.
>>>
>>> The rect is selected, but not 'snapshot' already. So the first  
>>> time, you
>>> select the rect, after that you only alter it to your needs (the
>>> previous rect is preselected).
>>
>> Yes, that would address my concerns. A patch implementing it would  
>> get
>> my thumbs up. (I love removing options by sensible defaults).
>
> agreed; this was the same solution that came to my mind when i read  
> Tomaz'
> original email. it's a "common sense" approach.
>
> -- 
> Aaron J. Seigo
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:02:45 -0800
> From: "Aaron J. Seigo" <aseigo@kde.org>
> Subject: Re: Path to ksnapshot, grab last used Region.
> To: kde-devel@kde.org
> Message-ID: <201001251402.45727.aseigo@kde.org>
> Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="us-ascii"
>
> On January 24, 2010, Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
>> Added an option to auto-save the last screenshoot in the folder that
>> was used to save the first one.
>
> one downside of such an option is that saving is now spread out over  
> multiple
> control widgets; this will lead to cases where one saves a snapshot
> accidentally to a folder because they previously selected this  
> option and then
> went on to work on something else. it essentially allows the user to  
> create a
> loop-hole in a "principle of least surprise" feature
>
> is "ctrl-S, <enter>" really so bad as to deserve another option in  
> the UI?
>
>
> -- 
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