On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Martin Gräßlin <kde@martin-graesslin.com> wrote:
> 4. Ayatana: I really, really dislike the changes done to Kubuntu Karmic due to
> Ayatana. It is sad that it is completely developed ignoring the community and
> it is sad that developer power is wasted by developing a system which is not
> upstreamable and that is known to the developer of the system. The way how
> Canonical tried to push their changes upstream were suboptimal. To me it
> looked like Canonical thought that if they send in patch after patch it will
> be accepted. So here I see potential to improve the communication, but that's
> more Canonical than Kubuntu.  And that brings us back to patching. Many
> applications have been patched to support yet another messaging system aka
> MessageIndicator. Review requests like "This patch has been in use during
> Kubuntu Karmic development and is now deployed with Kubuntu Karmic version"
> illustrate the problem. What's the advantage of having a review, if it is
> already out in the wild?

-*- ScottK hands apachelogger a cookie and asks him to answer the nice
people on kde-devel that except for the little widget we needed
because of Ubuntu patching non-KDE stuff, there's no Ayatana code
running by default in Kubuntu that isn't already in KDE svn.
 
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