From kde-devel Wed Nov 04 09:28:15 2009 From: Will Stephenson Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:28:15 +0000 To: kde-devel Subject: Re: Kubuntu asking for input Message-Id: <200911041028.15898.wstephenson () kde ! org> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-devel&m=125732696213187 On Tuesday 03 November 2009 16:41:59 John Tapsell wrote: > 2) Several apps crash when I shutdown the computer. KNetworkManager > for one. How did this get past QA? Or is this Just Me again? > 8) The knetworkmanager thing is still way too complicated for typing > in a password. On windows you have a single password entry box. > That's it. None of this faffing about with having to first select > from between 5(!) different options in the first combo box (None, WEP, > LEAP, etc) then having to chose the key type, etc.. Work with Will > Stephenson on this and make this Just Work. This Timelord effort is completely out of place on this list and John's response demonstrates why. In programming terms it's a layering violation - the bug that causes the initial wireless security detection for a new connection to fail is Kubuntu- specific because it was fixed already in trunk but was too late for Kubuntu to include. Instead of being discussed as an online update on kubuntu- devel@kubuntu.org we have it taking up your time and mine here. This list (and the cross-posted k-c-d) is for making KDE better for every distribution, not for getting people to hack with to make KDE better for one specific distribution. How would it look if Fedora, Pardus, Mandriva and openSUSE all started their Project Tardis, Dalek, Cyberman and whatever and promoting them here? This is not to say that KDE as shipped on distributions does not need improving. To this end I initiated what I humorously term a 'cross- distribution KDE conspiracy' a couple of weeks ago to get distributions talking together and coordinating our contributions to KDE. Distribution people have been contacted and we've started meeting. This would fix things we need like networking, multiple displays, a web 2.0-capable Konq, a Pulseaudio-capable mixer, a PolKit-kde that works with current Polkit, that no one KDE distribution team has the manpower to fix on their own (except maybe Pardus because they're supermen ;)) so we all benefit instead of siphoning off core KDE efforts to one distro's advantage. Sourly, Will Stephenson >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to unsubscribe <<