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ahh, I accidently sent the mail to your address -- I got used to the ReplyT=
o: beeing the mailinglist, sorry

Am Donnerstag, den 03.09.2009, 17:40 -0700 schrieb James Richard Tyrer:
> Christopher Roy Bratusek wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >=20
> > I'm working on a KDE-Integration module for sawfish and need to now som=
e
> > things:
> >=20
> > - Is there an environment variable notifying us that KDE is running?
>=20
> This is not a simple question. :-|  It depends on what you mean by KDE=20
> is running.  That is, KDE is only a collection of programs.
>=20
> Perhaps: "KDE_SESSION_UID" being set to the current USER will indicate=20
> that a KDE session has been started.
>=20
> > - How to get the KSM session-prefix/session-id via command-line/getenv?

> Not sure exactly what you mean here.  There is no process named ksm.=20
> There is ksmserver.  However, the process at the root of the process=20
> tree for a KDE4 session is: kdeinit4.  However, the command: kdeinit4=20
> can also be running when a KDE session does not exist.

Usually sawfish get the sesision-prefix/id via the --sm-client-id and
--sm-prefix. I just wanted to know, if KDE4 behaves the same way.

Both beeing used to connect to the Sessionmanager.

> The command line:
>=20
> 	pidof <process name>
>=20
> will get the process id of KDM which you should be able to use with the=20
> function: getsid() to find the session-id.  Perhaps it would help to=20
> look at the source for "pidof".
>=20
> > - What command is used as help-browser (khelpcenter?)
>=20
> yes, the shell command is khelpcenter
>=20
> > - What command is used as control-center (kcontrol?)
>=20
> No, name changed to systemsettings.
>=20
> > - What command is used to pop-up the "About KDE-Dialog" (if any)?
>=20
> AFAIK, you would have to use a KDE library function for that.

nothing self-praising like `gnome-about'?

> > - What command is used to pop-up the KDE Logout-Dialog?

$ qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer \
        org.kde.KSMServerInterface.logout 1 -1 -1

something like this?

> The dialog that pops up when you right click the desktop and select:=20
> "Leave"?  That is probably hardcoded somewhere in Plasma.  Perhaps a=20
> D-Bus message?  If there is documentation for this stuff, I would really=20
> like to know where it is.
>=20
> > - What options is used to make shutdown/logout pre-selected in the
> > Logout-Dialog?
> >=20
> it would be in ../share/config/ksmserverrc
>=20
> If this is the system default, there won't be anything anywhere, but if=20
> it was changed either in the $KDEDIR or $KDEHOME it will be:
>=20
> [General]
>=20
> shutdownType=3D
>=20
> This is a digit rather than a string so you will have to try it to see=20
> which is which.  IIUC, the default is "0" which is "End current session".
>=20
> > All for KDE4, please.
> >=20
> I have to say that some these are rather elementary questions, some=20
> basic familiarity with KDE would probably be of some help to your project=
.

I have basic familiarity with KDE ... KDE3. Hadn't had the time testing
v4.x

Thanks,
Chris



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